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Vkishore
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Godfather:Details gurtu levu kani , manchi fiction ani decide ayya..
 If you have a set opinion nothing more to add bro.I would prefer to beleive a Harvard neurosurgeon and many other prominent scientists who have experienced things out of the ordinary.
I know equal number of atheists scientists vunnaru ani...
Anywaz each to his own. Life will be dull without differing opinions . For me god exists...for you he/she does not ...problem emi ledu. |
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Adi choosanu.. Heaven gurinchi kadha.. Best seller, apatlo koncham time spend chessa dhani meeda.. Details gurtu levu kani , manchi fiction ani decide ayya.. |
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Vkishore:Vkishore
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Vkishore
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Andhrajamesbond:idekkada vundi? kanapadaledu.. can u paste the link again??
Oka well respected Harvard Neurosurgeon ..He was an atheist coma loki velladu mama...he came back from it and described his experience.
Usa lo Newsweek lo cover story chesaru last year...mindblowing ante mindblowing.
Link here
http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/10/07/proof-of-heaven-a-doctor-s-expe rience-with-the-afterlife.html
ABC channel vadu nightline lo kuda vesadu.Youtube link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GsoQRqnwV4
we are talking about a highly respected harvard surgeon who used to even teach students in medical school..was an atheist before this experience.... |
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Vkishore: Inko thread vesanu on a harvard scientist veelu vunte choodu mama.
idekkada vundi? kanapadaledu. . can u paste the link again?? |
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Godfather:Universe loo mana size/importance anedi literally negligible..
GF nuvvu atheist vi aina ...Hinduism ade cheptundi mana size negligble ani...
Godfather:Lucky gaa manishiga puttam, have fun.. Enjoy the world..
Manishiga puttatam lucky because man is the only creature with a brain capable of comprehension and ability to think. Yes have fun, enjoy the world but since life is so precious ...use it to find out why you are here
Anywaz I am not trying to recruit you to the other side. Inko thread vesanu on a harvard scientist veelu vunte choodu mama. |
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Gaali:Regarding my question on Moksha and your answers- Nenu ide nammutaa or chebutaa untaa. Moksham kaavalani praakulaade vaadu kooda selfish/greedy ani
agreed mama only thing meeta vallu small pleasures ki happy avutunnaru. Okka sari meditation lo mind explode ayyaka mind will not settle for small pleasures .
You can even observe this during when a husband and wife unite...if I am permitted to say this...right at the moment of climax the mind goes blank...and an explosion of energy occurs. Meditation is like amplifying that state a 1000 times .
Real meditation for 30 mins gives rest equivalent to 6 hours of sleep.
This is just tip of the iceberg...the feeling of uniting with the universe is unparalleled.
P.S Most people meditation anukoni nidrapotaru anukondi or common public impression is that it is very dry , boring fit for old people...it is not actually. |
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Ardham kani or proof leni vishyalani , GOD meeda tosestharu..
Inka purpose of life related , manam manalani ekkuva vuhinchesukuntam.. Universe loo mana size/importance anedi literally negligible..
Lucky gaa manishiga puttam, have fun.. Enjoy the world..  |
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Gaali:God ane concept matuku priests/kings manalni katti padestaaniki upayoginchina brahmastram ane nammutunna
Original Vedic religion was very open mama...even caste was not by birth. Multiple examples: Wife of Vasistha is Arundhati who is a mala kanya.
Many composers of the rig vedic hymns are not brahmins.
Asalu tight structure vundedi kadu ....If one is suited for a job.Like one is physically strong he will become a warrior...a sensitive one will become scholar
Tarvata times lo changes vacchayi...it became more rigid.By father's profession ala annamata...
adi social change anukondi.
coming to specific god concept....with their deep meditation they realized there is a common force in the universe which controls everything .
1.Oka physicist deenini grand unified force anocchu..
2.Oka biologist deenini conscisousness spark of life anocchu..
3.The rig vedic seers called it paramatama-supersoul....
definite ga social tangle vundi kaani there is also existence of a force that controls everything.... |
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Andhrajamesbond:
Vkishore:
Regarding my question on Moksha and your answers- Nenu ide nammutaa or chebutaa untaa. Moksham kaavalani praakulaade vaadu kooda selfish/greedy ani. 
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Gaali:Nenu aduguthunna konni questions or some of my theories might seem in vain for some or foolish for some. But to me these are genuine.
I don't think anybody here is thinking that those were foolish questions. appudu "miglina vallu medhaavulu' ani declare chesukonnatlu. manam andaram ade padava prayaanam chesthunna vaallamu. anthe.. |
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Vkishore:
Soadara nature loving religions/tribes undevi naaku telusu. Many concepts are common amongst these religions. The major being worship the forms of nature which are taking care of you.
God ane concept matuku priests/kings manalni katti padestaaniki upayoginchina brahmastram ane nammutunna.
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Gaali:Nenu aduguthunna konni questions or some of my theories might seem in vain for some or foolish for some. But to me these are genuine.
No question is foolish or vain mama it shows you are seeking and that is always good.Even if you dont end up beleiving in god that is still good...you are still seeking and that is the first quality.
Personally I am happy you are asking the questions. |
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Nenu aduguthunna konni questions or some of my theories might seem in vain for some or foolish for some. But to me these are genuine.
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Gaali:Ee concepts or dharmas enduku mana indian subcontinent varaku anni yugaluga parimitam ayyayi? Devudiki manam ante ekkuva ishtamaa?
ledu mama mana deggara kasta focus ekkuva vundindi.
Europe lo pagan nature worshipping valu vunde vallu...vallaki similar concept vundi for of every act returning in three fold ( karma ) .They worshipped nature,constructed sun altars
North america lo Red indiana bow down to Queatachotal ( spelling mistake vudocchu) a blue god riding a eagle....Vishnu murthy.Nature loving again .They have many concepts similar to us .We used to call them Nagas since they live under the earth or other side of planet
Thailand/Cambodia lo kuda nature loving religions vundevi...similar concepts again |
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Vkishore:A moksha seeking person is very greedy he wants the entire cosmos and wants to merge with it...
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Gaali:So why are we trying to escape that by attaining moksha?
Great question and answer lies in that. Yu don't need to do anythingwith moksha. If you try to attain it, that means mind is seeking something.shirdi Saiba cheppaaru"Vurak kurcho.antha nenu chesthaanu" ani(Vupaasini maharaj tho anukonta).
Kaani vuraka kurchovadam antha kahtam inkokati ledu. ye aalochana lekunda vuraka kurchoni chudandi. Moksham vachesinatle |
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Ee concepts or dharmas enduku mana indian subcontinent varaku anni yugaluga parimitam ayyayi? Devudiki manam ante ekkuva ishtamaa?
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Gaali:Rebirth = my soul entering another body. I assume soul = energy. The soul does not have a mind to think. It is the function of a brain to think. If I enter another body what happened previously does not matter. So why are we trying to escape that by attaining moksha?
your true nature is not bound mama.Every living thing on this earth is trying for expansion
a politician is trying for expansion of power since he knows power to be ultimate in his experience
a sensuous lover is trying to sleep with a thousand women since he knows copulation to be the ultimate
a knowledge seeker is trying to gain the maximum knowledge since he knows knowledge to be the ultimate
None of this is bad or right or wrong. The ultimate realization is merging into the universe not shackled by a mere body.
Rebirth ki karanam desires mama...inka clear ga cheppali ante "vasanas or in sanskrit tendencies". Nature will give you the best body for that tendency..
egne who loves to eat...in his next birth nature like a kind mother will decide the best body for eating the most is a pig's body and he will move downard in the chain.
Nature ki emi kopam kadu or it is not a punishment...
Same way other desires and equations...
When one reaches a stage of maturity and is not willing to settle for small things...he strives for moksha...
A moksha seeking person is very greedy he wants the entire cosmos and wants to merge with it... |
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Andhrajamesbond:Just 'out of compassion'..anukonta.
they say both are same, so they cannot bare the separation,,, cannot satisfy until both are togather.
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Gaali:I don't think that GOD would have such a big ego that you have to constantly pray to him saying that he is great.
Signature... inka edi decide kaaledu 
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Mana scriptures lo Africans gurinchi emanna undaa?
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Gaali:Enduku mama? Why is a guru desperate to find a disciple?
Just 'out of compassion'..anukonta. |
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Vkishore:Ramana Maharishi is a famous example...self enquiry for your own happiness or realization.
VK mama, well said, Human nature is Sat chit ananda,, ever happiness. Thats why the moment we are out of happiness status, we feel sad..and always try to find happiness which is the nature of soul,, But we not realize what is true happiness we struggle, get lost and suffer throughout the life.
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Musicfan:how desparate disciple is to find guru, its the same desparation the guru will have to find the disciple.
yes. many gurus travelled extenssively to find a right Sishya.
I was told by someone. "Tilopa searched the whole India to transfer what he found, but did not find any and finally found Naropa(i may be wrong with the spelling) in Tibet.Naropa found only one disciple in his life time and he is Marop. and he found Milerapa,but he did not find right Sishya during his life time. The tradition stopped with milerapa. |
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Vkishore:
VK mama, you put words into my post, I was exactly about to post the same..
Gaali:
Mottam nene ante inka ego ekkadidi? I think the ego should be lost just because we should not have ego of something that is not true,
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Rebirth = my soul entering another body. I assume soul = energy. The soul does not have a mind to think. It is the function of a brain to think. If I enter another body what happened previously does not matter. So why are we trying to escape that by attaining moksha?
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Gaali:MF mama. Naaku oka aalochana vastuntundi. Even if I want to believe that there is a GOD, I don't think that GOD would have such a big ego that you have to constantly pray to him saying that he is great. All religions tell us to shed our ego. If this is one of GOD's message to us, I don't think he would have an ego either.
Hinduism lo many schools of thougths do not require you to pray to God mama.He/She is no taskmaster sitting high above expecting the prayers .
Krishna famously says in the gita...he neither punishes nor rewards.it is the individuals own karmic record.
Ramana Maharishi is a famous example...self enquiry for your own happiness or realization. |
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Vkishore:
Thank you for answering my question.
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Musicfan:
MF mama. Naaku oka aalochana vastuntundi. Even if I want to believe that there is a GOD, I don't think that GOD would have such a big ego that you have to constantly pray to him saying that he is great. All religions tell us to shed our ego. If this is one of GOD's message to us, I don't think he would have an ego either.
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Gaali:Enduku mama? Why is a guru desperate to find a disciple?
It is said when Ramakrishna saw Vivekananda for the first time...he shed tears of happiness..hugged him and said " Narendranath where were you all this time ".
Of course Vivekananda manchi atheism phase lo vunnadu kabatti he put Ramakrishna throughouly to test before accepting him as his guru.
A true guru will also burn for a disciple...because he wants the entire world to be happy and a medium for the word to carry that knowledge. |
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Andhrajamesbond:The challenge in life is to find a guru who can answer all your questions
when you have the quest, existence will provide you the guru. Main problem is we are really in to that path yet.
Paiki eynni cheppukonnaa, devudu/aadhyaathmikam anedi mana jivitham lo oka small part. Ade mana dhyeyam kaadu. When our total energy is diverted towards that and when we are ready to sacrifice anything to achieve this goal, it will be given.Goutama budha got that.Ramana Maharshi and many people got it..
Depends up on how serious you are about it.. |
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Gaali:Avunu annai. Evaro cheppinave ivi. Totally agree. So life lo goal enti ante adi mana ishtam. Set your own goal.
Just to add to my own post. Society lo undaali ane korika unte matuku kattubatlu untai vaatini follow avvaka tappadu.
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Gaali:I am here as part of this universe/creation
This is where dwaita, adwaita concept comes into.
Dwaita believes its all GOD/supreme powers play time (leela) that we all exists and we need to achieve to merge with him to be part of the GOD. where as Adwaita says you realize that you are the one created and you are the one exists there is nothing difference. Till you realize that you will be stuck with temporary Maya..
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Musicfan:Its mutual Gaali mama, how desparate disciple is to find guru, its the same desparation the guru will have to find the disciple.
Enduku mama? Why is a guru desperate to find a disciple?
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Andhrajamesbond:yes. As i said before, these sound beautiful, But, did we experience this feeling?As it was told by one of the religious persons, we are borrowing that idea. when that is not our own experience, it jsut another idea in the shelf of our mind. no use for us.
I am not denying or accepting that concept/quotation.Just telling that is useless until we experience that feeling..
Avunu annai. Evaro cheppinave ivi. Totally agree. So life lo goal enti ante adi mana ishtam. Set your own goal.
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Gaali:The challenge in life is to find a guru who can answer all your questions. This guru himself should shed his ego when answering these questions.
Its mutual Gaali mama, how desparate disciple is to find guru, its the same desparation the guru will have to find the disciple.
But question is how prepared are we to get there to identify someone..
Krishna obviously has immense knowledge he is supreme power, But it took Arjuna time and Krishna to prepare Arjuna to see him..
Its all the same, how do you take it, when is the time is matters.
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Musicfan:However I see that three things one has to find
1. why are we here
2. what we are supposed to do
3. what is our goal and achieve that.
I am here as part of this universe/creation. I am but a mere living thing. But I don't know why this universe was created. What is the purpose?  When you don't know the purpose for this creation how can you have goals unless that creator told you. What we hear is what a fellow human being told us.
All living things I believe have a purpose to ecologically help each other to survive. Humans seem to be an exception. They seem to have been created to destroy this universe.
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Vkishore:Swadharmam enti...place in the cosmos enti...why are we here are the 3 right questions to ask.
About any year ago I posted on
Attached Detachment and Detached attachment.
I am suprised to hear that in RK Open heart with Sirivennela that his father practiced this and he was inspiration for Sirivennela.
I still believe this is best practice that one should follow and see how life changes..
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Gaali:"Aham brahmasmi" - I am Brahman. I am a spirit/soul. Idi matuku keka.
yes. As i said before, these sound beautiful, But, did we experience this feeling?As it was told by one of the religious persons, we are borrowing that idea. when that is not our own experience, it jsut another idea in the shelf of our mind. no use for us.
I am not denying or accepting that concept/quotation.Just telling that is useless until we experience that feeling.. |
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The challenge in life is to find a guru who can answer all your questions. This guru himself should shed his ego when answering these questions.
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Vkishore:Also one can fall into a ego trap discussing this.agreed.
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Vkishore: anywaz hopefully you watch the video and we can discuss some more...
Sure. chusu malli post chesthaa..Thanks |
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Rao garu it is true that this is an huge topic and takes lifetimes to digest properly.Also one can fall into a ego trap discussing this.agreed.
Also you posted the heart of the matter...with those 3 questions.
Musicfan:1. why are we here
2. what we are supposed to do
3. what is our goal and achieve that.
Bal Gangadhar Tilak the famous freedom fighter was also an sanskrit scholar par excellence. Bhagavad gita ni distill chesi Karma Rahasyam ani 30 volume book publish chesadu .TTD has it under publication now
Swadharmam enti...place in the cosmos enti...why are we here are the 3 right questions to ask.
P.S That swadharma varies by situation to situation and from human to human . |
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Musicfan:The more and more we go I feel that we get lost an doesnt help us much. The knowledge is more which will boast the ego or create new issues.
Beautifully said.
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"Aham brahmasmi" - I am Brahman. I am a spirit/soul. Idi matuku keka.
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Musicfan:Since there is no straight forward answer, we try for easy methods, get carried away..
Yep. I agree with your post. |
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VK/ AJB
Spirituality, Dharma and all these are immense endless topics. Everyone has their own interpretations which makes it more complicated. Most of our dharma doesnt have a single source based on tarka/meemamsa everyone has their own theories and concepts.
The more and more we go I feel that we get lost an doesnt help us much. The knowledge is more which will boast the ego or create new issues.
However I see that three things one has to find
1. why are we here
2. what we are supposed to do
3. what is our goal and achieve that.
Since there is no straight forward answer, we try for easy methods, get carried away..
Attarintiki Daaredi
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Andhrajamesbond:Can you try to love to everybody in the world and be succeed?? The moment you' try' , the love is gone..Love should happen all by itself and not to be practiced. so, 'Loving every one' is not in our hands. If that is so, everybody will try to love everybody. Does anybody wants to hate someone on purpose?? if so, to achieve what?? Love and hate both are not in our hands. something will happen that way. We are just helpless.
Bro you and I are saying the same thing.First of all Hinduism does not fall under the category of religion since it does not have a prescribed book or prophet, still you may aruge it is a technicality (important one though ) .
You are right that it should happen naturally and yes loving everybody is possible naturally...pakkana thread lo Harvard neuroscientist video post chesanu mama...I dont want to spoil the climax of the video a small hint ...if you were to experientially ( not theoretically) see that you are a part of an interconnected cosmos...that love will spring naturally...it need not be practised.
Andhrajamesbond:That’s why even after practicing mediation for decades, people say that 'thoughts are disturbing'. That is true. mediation has to happen. you cannot practice meditation as you cannot practice love. a teenage boy falls in love with a girl. did he practice before to do that?? mediation/moksha is also like that.
again you are stating the right principle ...except a long standing meditator will move to a natural state where there is neither suppression of distrubing thoughts...he does not even consider them disturbing...
it is more like a witness state...the thoughts come and go and he/she will act only on what is required.
anywaz hopefully you watch the video and we can discuss some more... |
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Naa quesiton/point yemiti ante, Ramayanam yeppudu modalu ayina, evolution theory yemi ayina, ippudu manaku vachedi yenti?? Ippudu manam ye situation lo vunnamu anedi manaku startign point and yekkadiki vellaali(yemi saadhinchaali be it a spiritual/religon/materalistc) ane target kaavaali. Anthakante yemi thelusukonna ippudu cheyyagaligindi ledu anukontunnaanu. |
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Vkishore:...Hinduism does not aim at suppression of anything
This is only with reference to Gaali's's post of supression and nothign serious about it. |
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Vkishore:you can love everybody in the world and go the infinity or bhakti route.
Religion has given many 'Ready made' solutions to humanity. Theoretically they sound good. But, not possible in reality. Can you try to love to everybody in the world and be succeed?? The moment you' try' , the love is gone..Love should happen all by itself and not to be practiced. so, 'Loving every one' is not in our hands. If that is so, everybody will try to love everybody. Does anybody wants to hate someone on purpose?? if so, to achieve what?? Love and hate both are not in our hands. something will happen that way. We are just helpless.
That’s why even after practicing mediation for decades, people say that 'thoughts are disturbing'. That is true. mediation has to happen. you cannot practice meditation as you cannot practice love. a teenage boy falls in love with a girl. did he practice before to do that?? mediation/moksha is also like that.
Bottom-line: Everybody has to have to desire to get Moksha/spirituality/Truth etc.. Religion cannot give that. Religion just manipulates people and take advantage of their weaknesses. A materialistic person wants name/fame/money etc. the spiritual per Moksha/kaivalya etc. But both have their desires to fulfill. At least a materialistic person is honest about his desires. The religious person does not know what he is going to get after his death, but just hoping that is going to get something .At the end, he just dies and he will not get anything.
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Kingchoudary:Ramayanam nijama kaada anna point theesukundam, atleast 1500 years gaa valmiki ramayanam vundhi annadi fact ye kadaa....
Mahabharata yuddanike 5000 yrs mama...Ramayana is much before
Kingchoudary:1) 1500 years mundhu India almost filled with forests kadaa, appudu yee places annintini oka writer yela imagine chesukoni rasthadu?
Imagination kadu mama Intuition....ee rojuki oka place lo kurchoni inko place lo jarigevi accurate ga cheppe vallu vunnaru....
extra sensory perception antaru....deenini...Parapsychology field kindaki vastundi.
I will post a link in a few minutes and you can look at it.
Kingchoudary:2) Obvious gaa aa kalam lo appatlo oka manishi India mothanni tour vesi map geesi daanni base chesukoni raasi vundadu kadaa....
3) Srilanka yela vuntadho yela describe chesaru?
Srilanka ne kadu mama meeta countries description kuda vundi ramayanam lo.....
They had extensive sea trade with other countries...and had well positioned maps too. |
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Andhrajamesbond:I contradict with you.'supressing ego' is not all good. It comes out in a differernt way(this time in a most revengeful way).If a saint suppresses his sexual desire by thinking it is good to suprees, he will end up in masturbating or gettign secual dreams even on his death bed.so, what is the point of suppressing?Instead of enjoyig a real woman, yo are enjoying an imaginated woman..But, the desire is there.
anduke diplomatic ga vunde valla lo cunningnnes,cruelity chaalaa yekkuvaga vuntundi.
Chala posts vunnayi...annitini cover cheyyali ante time saripovakapovacchu.
AJamesbond bhayya even though we are coming from totally opposite viewpoints...Hinduism does not aim at suppression of anything.In fact it is one of the most open philosophies...
1.Saints do not suppress desires...they just transmute it into another form. Complete bhogam route lo vellina vallu vunnaru....100% of anything is good .Falling between 0 and 100% is bad.
You can cut yourself off from the world and go the shoonya route...you can love everybody in the world and go the infinity or bhakti route.
Okati Virakti= Vi+ Rakti similar to Vairagya ...the other is Bhakti
Eg : Kamsudiki kuda moksham vacchindi...Virodha Bhakti valla...every moment he hated Krishna...in other words he was thinking of Krishna every moment. Like I said 100% of anything is good...even 0 is good. Half here and half there is bad... |
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Jamesbond annai supressing ego meda ne statement super.. I agree with you..
Signature... inka edi decide kaaledu
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Kingchoudary:annintini oka writer yela imagine chesukoni rasthadu?
'Historical Rama' is different than EPIC Rama.Ramayanam motham alaage jarigindani guarantee ledu. Ramudu ane character tho allina oka fiction ayivundochu ani konthamandi abhipraayam. |
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Gaali:we are suppressing our ego. This is good
I contradict with you.'supressing ego' is not all good. It comes out in a differernt way(this time in a most revengeful way).If a saint suppresses his sexual desire by thinking it is good to suprees, he will end up in masturbating or gettign secual dreams even on his death bed.so, what is the point of suppressing?Instead of enjoyig a real woman, yo are enjoying an imaginated woman..But, the desire is there.
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Prasanth:china china aanandaalu etukkomanaaru anedaanni follow avutunatlunnaavuga ani...
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Gaali:. Devudu Kaliyugam lo enduku evvariki kanipinchadam ledu?
deniki answer OMG....lo akshay kumar chepthadu ga...devuluu kuda marutharu ..ade old get up lo vundaru...memu kuda suit boot vesukuntamu ani....j/k |
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Gaali:Aa aamudam pace enti Prassi? Emayyindi?
china china aanandaalu etukkomanaaru anedaanni follow avutunatlunnaavuga ani...
aayana 50 kodite nee anandam tho kuudina kougilintalu eto ani
Be Positive--by Sir Gaali
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Ramayanam ranku baratham bonku ane vallaki oka question....
Thalchukuntene amazing anipisthundhi....
Ramayanam nijama kaada anna point theesukundam, atleast 1500 years gaa valmiki ramayanam vundhi annadi fact ye kadaa....
Ippudu andhulo konni points theesukondi....
Main gaa andhulo describe chesina places Ayodhya, kosala, mithula etc cities tharvatha Ramudu adavalukau poyaka madyalo vache rivers (explained in Aranya kanda), alaa akkada nundi danda karanyam (Badrachalam) lo parnasala lo vundatam, akkada Godawari lo pujalu cheyyadam etc, next akkadaki Ravanudu vachi sita ni yethukelladam....
Sita Sri lanka lo vundhi daniki route Rameswaram nundi sea cross cheyyali sketch veyadam, tharvatha bridge kattadam next akkada nundi war ayyaka puspaka vimanam lo Ayodhya ravadam....
Ippudu yee back ground lo konni questions
1) 1500 years mundhu India almost filled with forests kadaa, appudu yee places annintini oka writer yela imagine chesukoni rasthadu?
2) Obvious gaa aa kalam lo appatlo oka manishi India mothanni tour vesi map geesi daanni base chesukoni raasi vundadu kadaa....
3) Srilanka yela vuntadho yela describe chesaru?
Naaku yee questions ki ippati daaka answer ledhu, nenu anukone answer nijam gaa yedho mahima vundhi, Ramayanam annadhi jarigindhi ani.... |
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Prasanth:MOVIEART--bemmi.sarle
Aa aamudam pace enti Prassi? Emayyindi?
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Peekavle_tokka:Gaali mama, inkenti sangatulu!!
All good mama. Nee pelli cheste naaku bhadyata neeku doola teerutai. 
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Peekavle_tokka:
oppice la bore tenks ananth boob...
aa bongulo signature le...
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Proofdada:
Banda babu... banda babu.... enti sangatulu!!!
Nobody can hurt me without my permission
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bava
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Gaali:
Gaali mama, inkenti sangatulu!!
Nobody can hurt me without my permission
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Be Positive--by Sir Gaali
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Proofdada:
Bava
Teliso teliyako nuvvu pipty post esi buddi pagalagottav.  I love your timing dorling.
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Devudu ane concept venakaala I feel that there are two things. One positive and one negative.
Positive: When you pray to somebody and ask for their blessings or when you say that they are above us, we are suppressing our ego. This is good.
Negative: The Kings and Priests have used God and Devil to scare people and suppress them. When people are scared, they listen to you.
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Peekavle_tokka:Gaali mama... nuvvu naastikudivaa?? self declare chesesukunnavaa??? hooo my JESUS....
Nuvvu astikudivaa? Karmai...
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pooni...
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Prasanth:
nuvveda dorikaav raa naa pyaanaaniki...
Nobody can hurt me without my permission
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Peekavle_tokka:hooo my JESUS....
Be Positive--by Sir Gaali
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Gaali:
Gaali mama... nuvvu naastikudivaa?? self declare chesesukunnavaa??? hooo my JESUS.... 
Nobody can hurt me without my permission
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Gaali: than referring to a sea of information.
exactly its an ocean,, I heard to his almost 60-70 hours of pravachanams. After hearing to all, I realized that it is mesmerizing and unlimited knowledge, but end of the day, I didn't have answer to many basic questions I started with. So I got lost in between, sidetracked and lost focus..
Attarintiki Daaredi
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Like some others have mentioned below...
Most of the pre-historic or older civilizations have many similarities. One of them is their worship of nature. They attributed a God to most representations of nature and thanked them for their gifts to mankind or the universe. Compare Sanatana Dharma to Egyptians, Greek, Roman, Mayan, Mesopotamian, etc. Not sure about Chinese.
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Andhrajamesbond:Sare, yevaro rushu laku vinipinchaayi.akkadi tho yenduku aagipoyaayi??
Ide logic meda inkonchem discuss cheste.
1. Devudu Kaliyugam lo enduku evvariki kanipinchadam ledu? Paatha yuga la lo ez ga kanipinche vaadu.
2. Paatha yuga la lo chettulu, pasuvulu, etc etc matlaadevi. Ippudu enduku aapesaayi?
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Disclaimer: Oka history buff ga, chinnappati nundi mana hindu religion follow ayyi koddo goppo chadivi, chivariki naastikudiga maaraanu.
Riju, Firefox, VKishore bros points are accurate. I agree with them.
Ee thread veyyadaaniki kaaranma adigaadu Riju dorling.
Let me highlight a few.
1. Temples were never part of our culture (Sanatana Dharma). Does not matter when the first temple came into picture. There is no mention of them in our scriptures. This is what I remember. So if I am wrong, please point out.
2. I do not agree that Vedas are only 3500 odd years old. I think that they are much older and so is Sanatana Dharma.
More of my theories/conclusions in later posts.
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Musicfan:Vedas were voice/sound based so they were transfered to generations thru voice only.
Kanai ikkada malli konni questions-
Vedas yevari ki vinpinchaayi?? yeppudu vunipinchaayi?
Sare, yevaro rushu laku vinipinchaayi.akkadi tho yenduku aagipoyaayi??aa tharvaatha inka yevvari ki yenduku vinipinchadam ledu??cheppalasina truth antha cheppesinaaka ika god aapesaadaa?? anni vedas gaa god thana voice tho vinipinchi ippudu sudden gaa yenduku silent ayyaadu?? Next vedam yenduku raavdam ledu?? |
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Brad:just follow Chaganti garu on Facebook.. many are already answered..
You cannot take the ez way out like this. If you want to contribute to a discussion and have the energy then be more specific rather than referring to a sea of information.
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charithara loki velli mulaalu(roots) vethukkovadam valana yemi use vundadu. oka vishyaani ki support chese books/reports yenni vuntaayo, oppose chesevi kudaa anne vuntaayi. chivaragaa, mana openion ki anukulam gaa vunna books ni manam nammuthaamu.Ante, chivariki TRUTh anedi kanukkoledu. Mana ego ni feed chese vaatini maatram chadvukoni, "yedo thelusukonnamu" ani feel avuthaamu. Ultimate gaa yi research tho saadhinchedi yemi vundadu. |
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Vkishore:
Bro,
I am aware of the Oppenheimer theory. BBC vaalla docu on India lo first time choosanu idi.
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Musicfan:Temples cannot be a proof for something. They are time bound and to be destroyed. Vedas were voice/sound based so they were transfered to generations thru voice only.
Temples were not part of Sanatana Dharma.
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Peekavle_tokka:... araachakam prabalutundi... animals laaga behave chestaaru
'Not true'anukontunnaa.. chaalaa primitive tribals lo 'the so called civilized society' vunnatlu gaa sexual abuses vundavu.caste feeling vundadu. suppression/oppresison laantivi vundavu.Ofcourse,'survival of fttesst' anedi common.
Religon(any religion) anedi civilzed gaa manushulu yedhagadanaiki chesina use kannaa, harm yekkuva chesindi anukontunnaanu. |
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Saana sadavaali...
First things First VKishore
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Asalu probelm yemiti ante, HIMNDU ane religon assalu ledu. Chinna, chithaka relgions annintini(As Rijukrtu told) kalupukoni HINDu peru tho laaginchesthunanaru.
Kontha mandi SANATHANA DHARMAM antaaru. Appudu Sanaathana dharmam veru and Hindu rleigon veru avvaali.
History lo eyvaru raasindi nammaali? yevaridi anmmkudadu??Westners raasindi biased anukonte, East people raasindi biased ayye chance kudaa vundi kadaa?? yevari agenda tho vaallu oka hisotry raasthaaru. Naa kalla tho nenu chusina oka example.'Sankara vijayaalu' ane book(Adi sankarula charithra). Naa chinnappati version ki ippati version ki chaallaa maarpulu vunnaayi.Ye history book ayinaa inthe.
Kaabatti History books mida depend avvadam waste..Ippudu manam yelaa nadusthunnaamu. Yi religion mana spiritual growth ki yentha vupayogapaduthondi ane point nunchi journey start cheyyadam better ani naa abhipraayam. |
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kaani okati nijjam... prati vishayam andariki teliste... araachakam prabalutundi... animals laaga behave chestaaru... anduke ee rules and restrictions.... follow ayite... prasantam gaa vuntundi... lekapote... beasts laga behave chestaam... simple... but naaku telisindi postutaa... soon...
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naku no idea, time dorikinappudu ee teddu lepi reaserch chesta 
అన్న రామయ్య కు చిన్న రామయ్య కు అభిమానిని
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type cheyyataaniki time kaavaali...
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ofcourse nenu raasindi antha purely history perspective nunchi...religious people may not believe all these things...no issues... :-) |
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Gaali:The westerners also attribute the Golden Age of the Guptas for the development of Vedas and other scriptures.
some historians say that puranas were compiled during guptas, some others say it was earlier than that…puranas contain folkstories, mythologies etc of different gods…i have to say something here about how hinduism evolved…
most of india was covered with forests and these forests were inhabited by different tribes all over the country…these tribes had their own gods, followed different folk cults…vedic civilization was in the punjab plains initially and then spread to ganga plains…even ganga plains were full of forests and tribes…
vedic religion incorporated different tribal gods as avatars of the already existing vedic gods…their sacred places became sacred places in hinduism and temples were constructed there…their folkstories, mythologies were incorporated as mythologies in vedic religion and slowly became what came to be known as puranic Hinduism…this acculturation of tribals alaways existed in india since the beginning of vedic period…
puranala lo unde mythological stories anni kooda already tribals lo undeve…they always existed in oral form before they were compiled into a written form during or before guptas in 2nd-3rd centuries AD… |
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just follow Chaganti garu on Facebook.. many are already answered.. |
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bro, what is your point? is it that sanatana dharma is older than guptas? no mainstream historian disagrees with that…and temples cant be counted as proof of the existence or non-existence of sanatana dharma as it evolved through different phases, some of the phases didnt involve temples like now…
dating of vedas is a controversial issue and a hotly debated topic among historians... depending on their ideologies, political perspectives, vested interests some historians date them to the period of 1500BC to 700BC and some atleast a 1000 years earlier...this is full of politics...
mee post lo konni specific points meeda edo cheppadalchukunna to bring more clarity on the existence of temples before guptas...
1. sanatana dharma evolved from animism of early-IVC period and vedic period into a religion based on the foundations of philosophy in upanishadic period and then into puranic hinduism of gupta's period(from 3rd century ad)...
2. as we cant decipher the script of IVC, we can only make conclusions deduced from the archaeological remains...some buildings were found in the cities like mohenjodaro, harappa, kalibangan etc where some idols were found...these buildings are identified as temples by some historians based on some other evidences...
3. vedic hinduism(after IVC) was based on rituals and sacrifices, chanting mantras, worshipping gods who are actually personification of nature...but many terracotta figurines which hisotorians identify as belonging to feritility cults are found belonging to this period...this implies that idols were worshipped...
4. vedic people lived in wattle and daub houses...they might have used the same wattle and daub structures for housing the idols of fertility cults which makes them temples...these wattle and daub structures are perishable and so archaeologists couldnt find them...
only if the people use a long lasting medium for building temples, those remains can be found by archaelogists...only in 2nd century BC, people started building temples with bricks...we find jandial temple in taxila belonging to this period...so in short, temple architecture too evolved from temporary wattle and daub structures to permanent stone structures... |
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Nalla_baalu:HEy Vennela Kishore annai
Attarintiki Daaredi
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Farex:hello Vk bro,,,,good to see you after long time
farex mama good to see you too...
Nalla_baalu:HEy Vennela Kishore annai
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Vkishore:Stephen Oppenheimer ani National geographic
HEy Vennela Kishore annai 
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hello Vk bro,,,,good to see you after long time 
Jagamanthati Kutumbham Nadhi
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Vusirikai:Indiana colts :no1:
bagunnava sodara...ee season colts ki tough kavocchu mama. loss of Bruce Arians as OC who helped A Luck a lot ... 8 win record kavocchu mama.
Koncham luck kalisi vacchi two tough games win aite wild card as last year or else will miss playoffs... |
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Indiana colts :no1:
http://www.cooking-wonders.com/
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Dobbey:
topic intresting ga vunthe madhya lo foot ball gurinchi disco testhava 
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Vkishore:Bengals
bengals mana racha bava team
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Dobbey:football season ki malla vachesaara
 ee sari football should be good sodara.Bengals manchi strong ga anipistunnaru ...division meede anukuntunna. |
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Vkishore:
 football season ki malla vachesaara
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Sachinfan:elcom elcom.
thanks mama.
Musicfan:VK mama, long time,, great info, thanks..
Western culture existence at max is 3500 years ago, anukunta
MF mama, good to be here again. Western culture bias enti ante max 8000 yrs deggara mesopotamia/egypt civilization oldest ane bias lo vunnaru...
Sindhu-Saraswati Civilization ( Mohenjadaro Harappa ) lo dorikina tablets and other stuff ni inka poortiga decode cheyyaledu....some of them showing an age beyond 10,000 yrs. |
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Vkishore:
VK mama, long time,, great info, thanks..
Western culture existence at max is 3500 years ago, anukunta
Attarintiki Daaredi
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Vkishore:
elcom elcom..
Signature... inka edi decide kaaledu
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Also Gujarat Coast deggara Bet Dwaraka ane place deggara total Dwaraka city submerged under sea water dorikindi ..exactly as described in our puranas
Hindu newspaper link on that
http://www.hindu.com/2007/02/23/stories/2007022301242200.htm
Dani batti choosina...Carbon 14 dating to Dwaraka age 5000 yrs ani telcharu..... |
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Professor Narahari Achar is currently Physics professor at University of Memphis. Ayana Mahabharatam lo multiple places lo night sky description vundi. Using a software called planetarium he measured the timeline at which those would have occurred
youtube link on his dating of the Mahabharata.Mahabharatam age ne 5000 yrs ani telcharu....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uplsKrMatdc
The timeline of the vedas goes much beyond... |
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Gaali:Mana Vedalu, Puraanala prakaaram lakshala samvastaaraala kristam ee manavantaram udayinchidi. Pooni...adi pakkana pedadaam.
Westerners prakaaram Vedas were written or came into existence some 3500 years ago. Ee point meda konchem discuss cheyyalani undi naaku
Mama Stephen Oppenheimer ani National geographic lo kuda "Out of the Garden of Eden" ani 1 billion gene pools paina research chesadu....He proved the first man was out of Africa and migrated to India via sea route...Aryan theory ni landmine petti blast chesindi eeyane..
Prastutam Bradshaw foundation ani National Geographic to paatu run chestunnadu...Amazon lo multi multi best sellers eeyana books and research..
http://www.bradshawfoundation.com/stephenoppenheimer/stephen_oppenheimer.php
http://www.amazon.com/The-Real-Eve-Modern-Journey/dp/0786711922
http://www.amazon.com/Out-Eden-Peopling-Stephen-Oppenheimer/dp/1841198943
Coming further based on his research. Oklahoma State University Electrical Engineering Chair Subash Kak rasina article
http://www.rediff.com/news/2005/mar/08kak.htm
Further based on Stephen Knapp rasina book on age of the vedas
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1477607897/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_2?pf_rd_p=153552 3722&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=1841198943&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0D ER&pf_rd_r=04DMN6B8B5NNXMK3GBAZ
P.S DB appudu appudu choostunnanu...you started a nice topic , wanted to share a little info....this topic requires a much more detailed post....opika vunte later posts vestanu le mama..might not be regular though. |
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Asthikulu kee discussion eti vundadu gaa.. Edo book loo seppinatu 2 lachala yrs nundi temples vunayi antaru..
Andhuke threaduu nasthikulaki mathrame.. |
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Nasthikulu get out...angry
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Baga discuss chesi info pettandri.. |
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my two cents..
Vedalu is like Rajyangam...few smart people has written it for the common man to follow.
there are stories like this in every culture...those gods only exist in their stories..rest of the world does not know about them.
greek mythology lo kooda chala rich stories untayi.
these good stories about whats good and what is bad makes us human and separate us from the rest of the animals.
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I demand Nanee baa to come and answer these questions
Gaalannai ee topic meedha research chesi malli vastha
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Gaali:
Gaali mama, enti inta deviation with such a serious topic?
Westerners prakaram ante allaki vedas gurinchi telsinde appatinunchi, that doesnt mean Vedas existed only then. Because Vedas were not scripted so there is no way someone would know about it.
Temples cannot be a proof for something. They are time bound and to be destroyed. Vedas were voice/sound based so they were transfered to generations thru voice only.
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Good question annnai
Riju anna vachi answer chestharu emmo ani waiting nenu kuda
Naakavu ley aaku
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Emayyindi ippudu historical facts gurinche kada discussion.
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Gaali
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Ee madhya konni doubts vaste research chesaanu..so interest unnollu mee rendanaalu samarpinchandi.
Mana Vedalu, Puraanala prakaaram lakshala samvastaaraala kristam ee manavantaram udayinchidi. Pooni...adi pakkana pedadaam.
Westerners prakaaram Vedas were written or came into existence some 3500 years ago. Ee point meda konchem discuss cheyyalani undi naaku.
Mana puraanalalo kaani, vedalalo kaani ekkada Gudi ki velladam kaani Gudulu kattinchadam gurinchi kaani ledu. So far archaelogical facts state that the oldest temple in India is about 2000 years old. So nenu kooda anthe anukone vaadini around Gupta empire time lo start chesuntaru ivi.
Mohenjodaro, Harrappa times (Indus Valley Civilization) days lo kooda temples levu. In fact that is the time period from where we found idols of Shiva, lingam, etc. but no temples.
The westerners also attribute the Golden Age of the Guptas for the development of Vedas and other scriptures.
But all in all taking temples into picture I feel that the Westerners theory to be flawed. I feel that though there are no physical or archaelogical proofs, our Sanatana Dharma is older than that.
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