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There are three murder attempts ( made to look like accidents ) on kriti
(1) The missed Open top jeep accident where kriti saves both Mahesh and herself...
(2) The boat falling accident where Mahesh saves kriti ( This scene was edited and cut after the first day )
(3) And the Yatch fire scene...( where again Mahesh saves her )
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Andhramass:




KD's batch follows kriti throughout and digs her entire background details right after she reveals the faulty seed episode in the channel news ( which is just before Mahesh leaves for Goa )......

You can see two goons watching them suspiciously in multiple scenes...
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Andhramass:

Annaii, KD ki yetla telusu yatch lo heroine undi anni?


KD batch vachi yatch ki fire pedutharru kada




Goa lo vallani monitor sethu vuntaru gaa, so atta thelusukoni vuntaru.... lekapothey prathi okkati ayya yee scene itta theestham ani septhada director poraa thai....
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Annaii, KD ki yetla telusu yatch lo heroine undi anni?


KD batch vachi yatch ki fire pedutharru kada
anni dananallo Annadanam Minna lal salam
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Just to give you an example, 300 movie shooting took place inside the movie sets for 48 days....and post production work took more than an year......and you know the quality of end product.....

The makers of "1" movie and Mahesh wanted the movie @ international standards and at the same time appeal to the mass audience of telugu cinema but they seem to have failed in fulfilling the second part ( whatever may be the reasons )....

But don't come to the conclusion on the result of "1" yet...I am pretty sure it will become hit in telugu eventually ( talk will change...choosta undandi ).......it will get critics acclaim across the globe......
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Annai,

As per my sources, Sukumar Second half lo extraordinary commercial action sequences plan chesadu and shooting kuda chesadu ........But Producers and Mahesh fans pushed extremely hard for Jan 10th release....

The film crew din't get enough time for post production work.....otherwise the film would have gotten a block buster talk ( even from a common movie lover )....You can see some scenes of the trailer missing in the movie....

Whatever happened, the end product right now is still amazing....
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So coming back to the number of combinations possible

I was looking at the mechanics of Rubik Cube's rotations in the net to calculate the combinations, and I got the combinations for free :-) ..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubik's_Revenge

total of 7.4 X (10 to the power 45) combinations (7,401 septillion) possible which is a 46 digit number...

And world record for an average solution is 30 seconds ( you can find it in the same link )....So 1051200 combinations can be arrived in an year...

Diving 46 digit number by 7 digit number gives 38/39 digit years to solve the puzzle and resolve the mystery....

So Yes, 20 years is not enough to solve the mystery in a systematic and scientific way....
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Thedarkknight:





Annai anni posts veysthunarru


Just my thought, commercial movie kannapudu antha budget avvasarama?

Same story ni 20c lo kuda theyyochu, ponni aa chases emmmana superb aaa anthey just ok
anni dananallo Annadanam Minna lal salam
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Thanks Naaistam and Kichidi brothers for your opinions. I appreciate your comments.

Kichidi brother, I am not questioning the IQ of a common man, all I am saying is at least make an attempt to understand the movie and view it as a psychological thriller ( and not as a pot boiler mass masala ) and appreciate the makers, producers and most important the Super star who made it possible ( if one can )......

Please don't kill an extraordinary telugu film which will make us proud in generations to come....Its properly titled as "1"....Nenokkadine ( the prince )....
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Mahesh lanti actor manaki ee generation lo dorakadam mana luck. Hope he continues with these new genres
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Kichidi:


CLIPART--angry inkaa padukoledemi
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Naaistam:


ok.. mr.gandhi MOVIEART--bemmi.aggipulla
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Kichidi:

ehe nenu ekkada negative ayyanu.. ayana nidrosthondi.. calculation tappu chesa repu cheptha ante.. akkarledu bhayya.. movie is good.. manam ikkada enni calculations cheppina waste.. ardam kanollaki ardam kaadu.. prayasa padoddu ani cheppa..




nidra varuku ok...aa angle ippude ardamayindi..
em ledu ardamayithene movie ni appreciate chestaam....talent ni appreciate chestaam....if someone is doing it, let him anthe...
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Naaistam:


ehe nenu ekkada negative ayyanu.. ayana nidrosthondi.. calculation tappu chesa repu cheptha ante.. akkarledu bhayya.. movie is good.. manam ikkada enni calculations cheppina waste.. ardam kanollaki ardam kaadu.. prayasa padoddu ani cheppa..

neeku danlo negaive emi kaipinchindi?
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Kichidi:

vaake.. i lost... u win..



MOVIEART--bemmi3
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Kichidi:

nenu annadi ayana calculations avasaram ledu. movie bane vundi.. antha srema padoddani.. adi kaapadaleda?




ante ardam entii baa??MOVIEART--ms.shock

all I am saying is, db lo kurrodu thana opinion chebuthunnadu...manam discourage cheyakoodadu...I dont know why you are so negative on this
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Naaistam:


vaake.. i lost... u win.. inka vunta.. okka sari na first post correct ga saduvu kunte ardam avutundi.. nenu ayanani enduku srama padodannano... meeto naaku argument enduku kani.. lite..
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Kichidi:

nenu sagatu prekshakudini kanani meerela decide ayyaru?




mem ekkada decide chesaam?...ninnu mem certify cheyyaledu...nuvvu cheppenta varuku naakayuthe telvadu...nuvve post chesavu...

Kichidi:

manaki ardam ayna ardam kakapoina sagatu prekshakudiki ardam kaledu..





Kichidi:

nenu sagatu prekshakudine..


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Naaistam:

so neeku ardamkaaledu kabatti aayana alochinchatam vadileyaala...idedo bagundi...




meeku naa post ala ardamayyinda?nenu annadi ayana calculations avasaram ledu. movie bane vundi.. antha srema padoddani.. adi kaapadaleda?
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Naaistam:


nenu sagatu prekshakudini kanani meerela decide ayyaru? nannu ela categorize chesaru? if you have an opinion about me, i can have an opinion about you..
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Kichidi:

nenu sagatu prekshakudine..


so neeku ardamkaaledu kabatti aayana alochinchatam vadileyaala...idedo bagundi...
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Kichidi:

meelaaga pseudo intellectual ni kadu




koddiga idi explain cheyyava...ela certify chesthunnavu?
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Naaistam:


nenu sagatu prekshakudine.. meelaaga pseudo intellectual ni kadu .. anduku
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Kichidi:

annai.. intha srama padaku.. manaki ardam ayna ardam kakapoina sagatu prekshakudiki ardam kaledu.. adi main point.. so leave it here.. prayasa deniki..


endii nee golaMOVIEART--bemmi.angry1

sagatu prekshakudi gurinchi neekendukayya CLIPART--asdf
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kumminav brotheru....simply brilliant...deenemma kansepu mind block avvindi sukku ey level lo alochichaado ani....great script...

nuvvu answer chesina anni questions ni publicity ki vaadukovali....this is when school publicity avasaram ayiddi....

take a bow thedarknight and sukumar CLIPART--cool
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CLIPART--a140
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Kiki
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I will have to re-calculate the combinations....Have to sleep now, will do it tomorrow...


annai.. intha srama padaku.. manaki ardam ayna ardam kakapoina sagatu prekshakudiki ardam kaledu.. adi main point.. so leave it here.. prayasa deniki...

we agree.. movie is good
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deenemma inception movie taravatha ilanti discussion chesinattu gurthu... tollywood ekkadikooo vellipoindi ga.. MOVIEART--kooniragam
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Sorry about the answer of Level 2 of the first question. Its not 96! as all the 96 smaller cubes can't be placed in all the 96 slots, As the rotation doesn't allow it that way....I will have to re-calculate the combinations....Have to sleep now, will do it tomorrow...
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Naak bhi nachindhi....
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Kiki....
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After watching "1", I feel proud that I am a fan of Mahesh Babu, I can proudly tell this Even to my non Indian friends and recommend this movie .....Sukumar is tollywood's Christopher Nolan in making.......Hats off to both of you....."1" is just freaking glorious movie made @ international standards......
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Vaammoo...
Narsiah fans Ramu,Gali...
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(3) What is the need for michael ( mahesh's assistant in london ) to disappear and stay away from mahesh when he's not involved with the truck accident episode planned by Pradeep Rawat's son?

Answer: Michael is definitely involved with Nasar and notifies nasar of mahesh's travel plans and his arrival in london. So when the accident occurs, michael thinks that it's the plot by Nasar
and he disappears.

Level 2 of the same question: Does Nasar really need michael to know about mahesh's plans of travelling to london knowing that he himself helps mahesh to travel to london to solve the mystery?

Nasar could have done this through third party spies but may be he doesn't want mahesh to know that he's getting followed. Some cinematic liberty is taken here( Not sure if sukumar thought about level 2 of the question )
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(2) Why doesn't Kelli Dorje care about mahesh until he gets killed during the interval?

Answer: Nasar just takes the help of a local mafia leader in goa to kill mahesh's father without any proofs. KD doesn't have any other motive except the payment from Nasar.

Level 2 of the same question: When Nasar is searching for the boy can't he involve KD to take care of handing over the clues to mahesh?

Nasar wants to play the cards of Golden rice close to his chest ( Considering the multi trillion dollar business potential ) and doesn't want any involvement from others ( Especially a smart mafia leader who also deals with hybrid seed business )
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Enter this thread only if you watched the movie





(1) Why does Nasar and team depend on mahesh to solve the Rubic Cube puzzle?

Answer: Mahesh's father teaches mahesh to end the rubic cube in a different way ( which mahesh gets addicted to solve in that way, this is 4 cubes of one colour in the middle surrounded by a different coloured cubes all over ) than
the usual all coloured cubes on one side. You can observe this in the scene before the Nasar's men enter mahesh's house in hyderabad and couple of other scenes.

Level 2 of the same question: Why can't Nasar's team come figure out all the possible endings of rubic cube roation and see if it gives any clues. Does he have to wait for 20 years to solve that puzzle via mahesh?

Answer: The cube has 96 slots ( 16 * 6 sides ) to be filled by each smaller cube. So there are 96!(96 factorial) possible endings of the cube roation. 96! is 150 digits long.
If you want definitive conclusion of solving the mystery you need to proceed systematically by starting at a known combination ( Say all the colours on one side ). And Note
that there is only one bigger cube with the markings, So the combinations can't be tried parallely ( unless a copy is made with exactly the same markings on the all smaller cubes).
Assuming that it takes "1" second to arrive at each combination ( which is highly impossible btw even with the highest IQ'ed person's brain ), to solve 150 digits long combinations, it takes 141/142 digit years ( 1 year = 8 digit seconds ).
So yes, 20 years is not enough to solve the mystery in a systematic way.

Level 3 of the same question: Why can't Nasar's team try it using a Super Computer by feeding the mystery cube into a program by taking the pics of it?

Answer: Mahesh ( gautam ) was born in 1986 ( You can see this in his childhood dairy during the climax ) and nasar gets the cube when he's 6 years old...1992 was not a time when photo graphic processing by super computers was in use.
You can again ask, that processing capability came much before 2012/2013 when mahesh's solves the mystery. A bit of cinematic liberty is taken here.

Level 4 of the same question: How could mahesh arrive at the exact combination in such a short time? Remember There are still a big number of possible combinations ending
the cube the way mahesh's father taught him ( 4 coloured cubes surronded by 12 cubes of a different colour )

Answer: Here you can imagine that sukumar has taken cinematic liberty.....( I am not sure if sukumar had thought about level 2 & Level 3 questions though, I just threw those scenarios and answered them ).

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