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Kalikaalam
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Post Number: 1761
Registered: 04-2015
Posted From: 171.159.64.10
Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2016 - 7:02 am:    Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

'Additonal tuition' vs 'no tuition'
'Public schoo'l vs 'Private school'
'Maximum school grades' vs 'minimum grades with more additional activities'..

ane discussions never ending.Yevari experience valladi.rendu pakkala plus and minuses vuntaayi.

Naa openion: Kids should get maximum school grades possible along with additional activities. As I told about the Indian kids in my area when I was in PA,all of them got 4+ grades with at least one sport to their credit. Few kids also got work experience before they graduated. I want to see all-round performance. If at all, I need to compromise on something, I'll do with extra curricular activities and never compromise on education.
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Nsk9876
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Post Number: 608
Registered: 07-2010
Posted From: 198.204.133.208
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Gochi:

memu ilaa extra classes ki pampatledhu rao gaaru...anavasaramgaa mana chinappudu manam ekkuva tension theesukunnaamani feeling...after 30 yrs choosthe class lo first rank odu, 10th rank odu same job doing...so ilaa always first undaali, top lo undaali anna feeling theesesi avg chadivina chaalu ani decide ayyaa....instead I want my kid to learn some arts like Music/Dance/Painting and make it as hobby so they can enjoy this all their life anipisthaa undi...


annai..... thanks a lot..... naa laaga think chesevadu okadu vunnanduku.... inthavaraku okka cent pettaldu nenu in the name of tuitions/kumons/aloha etc.... spent only on music/soccer/swimming etc....

maa area llo ila velaki velu thagalestunnaru in the name of tuitions etc.... in the end valla satta ni batte marks vastunnai kaani pedda improvements emi ledu..... wife and husband iddaru job lu chesi pillalni anni rakala classes lo cherchi dabbulu anni danike thagalestunnaru.....
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Musicfan:

ikkada desi kids, go to Kumon or some math classes




memu ilaa extra classes ki pampatledhu rao gaaru...anavasaramgaa mana chinappudu manam ekkuva tension theesukunnaamani feeling...after 30 yrs choosthe class lo first rank odu, 10th rank odu same job doing...so ilaa always first undaali, top lo undaali anna feeling theesesi avg chadivina chaalu ani decide ayyaa....instead I want my kid to learn some arts like Music/Dance/Painting and make it as hobby so they can enjoy this all their life anipisthaa undi...
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Musicfan
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Registered: 05-2004
Posted From: 66.117.193.162
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Nsk9876:

i can see people getting 80+ but less than 90 in Ap subjects is regular annattu vundi....




Desi kids and chinks are in top league, ikkada desi kids, go to Kumon or some math classes, Reading and essay writing and then migita subjects electives like computer related courses and some foreign languages lo A to A+ is for sure, taken for granted annattu.

Indulo manollu math lo way ahead in terms of class and course. 9th grade lo already pre-calc chese vallu unnaru, Calc which is college course easy gaa 10th grade lo AP course chesi A+ techukuntunnar.

4 subjects lo 2 AP and all of them A to A+ techukoni, migita rendu like English and History lo B to B+ vachinaa 4.0 GPA overall vastundi

Idi only applies to desi and chinks.. and doesn't have to do with national averages.
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Nsk9876
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Post Number: 606
Registered: 07-2010
Posted From: 198.204.133.208
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Kalikaalam:

Nannu ani kaadu. aa line of argument chesina valla ni vetakaaram gaa "Dharma prabhuvulu" ante chebuthunnaa.


ledu anna.... gpa >4.25 per class ki okkadu vuntademo.... alanti valla ni sample ga teesukunte etla anna way lo ala annanu.... that too overall 1/2 percent ayinappudu
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Nsk9876
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Musicfan:

indulo random gaa regular and AP ki all A grades ichi choodandi, how GPA changes..

all regular A grades GPA is 4.0

2 AP courses aithe GPA is 4.2

If its 3 AP courses, GPA is 4.5

maa kurrodu IB curriculum in high school, where its mandatory to take 2 AP courses per year. so okati rendu B+ vachinaa it covers up for him..




agree annai....

ayina AP subjects lo A ante 90% and above vundali..... which is also not a simple task.... i can see people getting 80+ but less than 90 in Ap subjects is regular annattu vundi.... A (90+ vundali) ravalante adi kooda antha easy kaadu in AP subjects.... students are strugling lot in our area to attain A in AP subjects.... thats the reason I feel 4 and above is not easy task....

even in school counselrs in their speech if you have GAP 4.15 or above will get admissions (ofcourse other things also need to be look, but GPA point lo vallu cheppina score) in good universities ani chepparu....
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Nsk9876:

4 touch kavatam kooda impossible annattu vuntundi situation




http://gpacalculator.net/high-school-gpa-calculator/

indulo random gaa regular and AP ki all A grades ichi choodandi, how GPA changes..

all regular A grades GPA is 4.0

2 AP courses aithe GPA is 4.2

If its 3 AP courses, GPA is 4.5

maa kurrodu IB curriculum in high school, where its mandatory to take 2 AP courses per year. so okati rendu B+ vachinaa it covers up for him..
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Kalikaalam
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Post Number: 1758
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Posted From: 171.161.160.10
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Nsk9876:

..... AP exams moolamgane GPA 4 datuthundi avi lekapte



yep.Idi kudaa appude discuss chesaamu.

Nsk9876:

nenu mimmalni kaani inko evarno kaani analaedu...




Nannu ani kaadu. aa line of argument chesina valla ni vetakaaram gaa "Dharma prabhuvulu" ante chebuthunnaa.
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Nsk9876
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Soggadu:

AP programs chesthe aa extra credits vasthayi anukuntanu - that leads the GPA to >4.

Canada scores to GPA conversion meedha research chesthe got the following table :

A+ 95% - 100%
A 87% - 94%
A- 80% - 86%

Naaku telisina circle lo kids ki evariki 80 ki takkuva scores vinaledhu.




you are right brother..... AP exams moolamgane GPA 4 datuthundi avi lekapte.... 4 touch kavatam kooda impossible annattu vuntundi situation
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Nsk9876
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Kalikaalam:


thammudannai.... nenu mimmalni kaani inko evarno kaani analaedu.... just issue meedane anna..... assalu aa thread lo matter chadivanu thappa.... post chesina members (usuall gaaa film collections threads ki thappa miglina ee content thread ki evaru post chesaro vaalla perllu assalu chadavanu/pattinchukonu) perllu kooda choodaledu.... oka vela adi mimmalni vuddesinchi ai meeru feel ayite.... kshamincheyyandi.....
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Kalikaalam
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There is no need to bluff or brag about it by me as I am talking about the whole community and not about my own kids.
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Kalikaalam
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Nsk9876:

annattu selavichharu..... dharma prabhuvulu




sare.. miku nachinatlu gaa cheppalante kashtam.We or I clearly told 'this is only in Indian community in our area and not at all a national average. If you want your kid within the national average, I can not comment on this topic anymore". ani. I(nkaa inthakante spashtam gaa ,clear gaa yelaa cheppaali?

Yes. That is top 10 or 5% of the school district and most of the slots were occupied by our Indian kids and I want to see our kids in top 2% to 5% .
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Blazewada
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Post Number: 27380
Registered: 08-2008
Posted From: 119.56.123.57
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Andhramass:



Musicfan:




tappadu, media kooda attane sachindi, IIT IIM topper aithe toppu anatu, too much emphasis ochindi AIEEE, IIT-JEE lo topper aithene future, lekunte waste annattu.

ma menalludini CBSE lo jercharu
coz IIT, AIEEE ki allign aidi syllabus plus state syllabus outdate aipoddi coz common entrance ochestundi in another 5-10 years for engg,sciences. medicine ki next year nunde.

aithe topp college lo enng,medicine or CA.
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Andhramass
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Musicfan:

they will be entrepreneurs or owners of some companies.




daniki GPA ki enti sir relation

http://fortune.com/2016/06/11/wwdc/
anni dananallo Annadanam Minna lal salam
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Nsk9876
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Musicfan:

maa oorlo average 3.6 anna, but 4 and above is not uncommon in Indian kids..




anyways thanks sodara.... may be you are right in some desi communities.... lo very commom annattu emo.... as of now.... here 4 ke pamba regutundi..... even in desi kids toooo....
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Musicfan:


http://iitsuicides.blogspot.sg/?m=1

nenante tolu mandam kabatti maa father dept lo unna vere valla pillalaki IIT rank ochi nannu vallu geli cheskunna thut ani tattkunna

later 1 year longterm dandayatra chesi eamcet lo manchi rank ochindi
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Musicfan
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Andhramass:

4 + GPA anthey he suits best for 9 to 5 job aa?




4+ GPA vaste aallu 9-5 jobs enduku chestaru Massesh, they will be entrepreneurs or owners of some companies.
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Ajaatasatru
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Post Number: 304
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Forex pricing, n options.. then y u dont u pitch in our stocks thread ? MOVIEART--JP1

last month, Forex Options quant ani cheppi .. Saxo bank nunchi call chesaru. Teera chuste .. vallaku kavalsindi C++ in Windows lo edo front end develop chestunaranta.But i hear saxo giving gud packs like 25+ for quants/gud techies in gurgaon.. 10 mins lo call end ayyindi, since i didnt know they wanted Windows guy.and they realised i was unaware..
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Ajaatasatru:




front office ae, private banking lo forex options pricing dealing, java development.
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Blazewada:




ohhkk.. ala annara.. swarry, galthi se misunderstanding ayyindi.. Good to know you are in same field. prastutam FrontAapice ? or what are you working on..if i may ask..
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Ajaatasatru:

30k INR is less




samee meeku ardham kalaaa aa salary meeru nelaki 1 Lakh min save cheyochu. conservative aithe 1.5

evado meeku baaaga misguide chesaaru adi nenu cheppedi

nenu 8 yearsa nundi chesatunna ikada, 3 years exp tho naaku 45K icharu citi bank lo. I wasa very happy with that slow ga edigam.

I dont mean to be rude. help chedamane cheppa.
mee GS lo kooda ikkada 10 yrs java developer aina 100K ranage istaru

for 3+ Yrs 75K is too good, u woud have reached 120-150K range by now consistent ga improve cheskunta unte.


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Blazewada:




didnt mean 30k INR is less - naa uddesam, i can work at GS,stay at bangalore with Family in BZA - and save > 30k. aa point lo alochiste peddaga gr8 anipinchaledu naku offer. n appatlo 75k people said might be less, and by the time i cleared SGP BoFa,MS Mumbai - GS Blr.. so koncham badhakam + family,$ alochinchi SGP drop ayya. I wanted to get a sense of Asia jobs, once i go to college - dont think i will get Asia companies to recruit there - but in case telsukundamani.

Thanks for your info .. much needed help .. i will get back to you in case i decide to come to Asia to work...
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Ajaatasatru:

peddaga nashta poledu anamaata




3.5 years ki adi manchi salary
meedi chaala high end profile anukunta. so u may feel that way
naa lanti normal janalaki 3+ years adi chaala manchi pay. what ever lost is lost. its past so leave it

30K INR matrame saving ane valla evaro kani, _/\_

what ever impression u have abt HK,SG pls change, dont get carried away by random news,

If ur really serious to know and look for jobs in asia lemme know
I can help u to the extent with my contacts.
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Blazewada:




it was in 2010 Dec - so i was only 3.5 yrs experience by then. I was pure C++ dev by then - no derivative knowledge, all of this i built up during my time at GS. And the 70-75k$ was quoted by the headhunter .. punjabi odu. And ppl were telling me its low,cant save much etc. ..

sare all is well that ends well.. peddaga nashta poledu anamaata MOVIEART--smoking
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Ajaatasatru:

industry thin ayindi tko,hk,sgp lo..




wrong. HK lo IT market is good. it all depends on ur network and programming skills.

SG lo thin aindi, still basics manchigunte u can survive.


Ajaatasatru:

OMS in C++, 70-75k SGD offer nadusta undi ..but folks then told me, might save 30k INR every month with that pack & also got GS offer so lite teeskuna... what do you think about that, wise decision ?




70K is very very less for such project and req.

30K INR per month only ante, saami sikharam nenu no comments.
expenses are relative. U can stay in a 1000 $ house or 5000$ house.




Ajaatasatru:

also got GS offer so lite teeskuna... what do you think about that, wise decision ?




mimmalni baaga mis-guide chesaru evaro. 100K+ is easy provided u have good quant or deriv knowledge with programming skills.

infact naa telsina vallu who are thops in programming only, are working for 120-180K range here
all depends on timing and ur network.
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Blazewada:




without directly referring to your personals.. Blazy saar, aravapore lo brahmi jobs / fin jobs meeda light veyyandi.. info kosam paduntadi. I somehow have an opinion, fin lo pani cheyadam ante LDN,NY better than East... and see that overall last few yrs lo .. industry thin ayindi tko,hk,sgp lo..

2010 Dec i was looking for change, apudu BofA SGP toh intw chesa they were looking to build an OMS in C++, 70-75k SGD offer nadusta undi ..but folks then told me, might save 30k INR every month with that pack & also got GS offer so lite teeskuna... what do you think about that, wise decision ?
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Blazewada:

naala brahmi jobs cheskodame.




neekenti seeti baa

satanarayana uram lo sagam needhey, aa singhnagar lo bridge krinda motham needhey anni talk

singapore lo cbn ki binami nuvvey anni inside info
anni dananallo Annadanam Minna lal salam
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Andhramass:

4 + GPA anthey he suits best for 9 to 5 job aa?



Musicfan:




nope. highschool lone Bigdata nerchukuni, noonugu meesala time ki
Startup pedatar.

antha kanna takkuva oste waste aannattu. naala brahmi jobs cheskodame.
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4 + GPA anthey he suits best for 9 to 5 job aa?
anni dananallo Annadanam Minna lal salam
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Nsk9876:

4 or 4.25 or 4.5 are very very easy annattu selavichharu.....




http://www.bewarsetalk.net/cgi-bin/discus/show.cgi?tpc=5&post=1357278#POST135727 8

maa oorlo average 3.6 anna, but 4 and above is not uncommon in Indian kids..
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Soggadu:

AP programs chesthe aa extra credits vasthayi anukuntanu - that leads the GPA to >4.




Monna thread lo ide cheppam gaa, normal ki advanced or honors ki GPA lo chala teda vastundi,

A+ in any of honors or AP will make huge difference and GPA goes beyond 4..
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AP programs chesthe aa extra credits vasthayi anukuntanu - that leads the GPA to >4.

Canada scores to GPA conversion meedha research chesthe got the following table :

A+ 95% - 100%
A 87% - 94%
A- 80% - 86%

Naaku telisina circle lo kids ki evariki 80 ki takkuva scores vinaledhu.
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monna sat questions thread lo.... 4 or 4.25 or 4.5 are very very easy annattu selavichharu..... dharma prabhuvulu..... 12th grade ki vacchetappatiki kaneesam aa 10% per school kooda vundatam ledu gpa 4 or above lo....

and inko vishayam..... aa school ranking lo top 4th in VA state and 28th rank in US
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ee lekkalu from a school located in US most richest county.... LOUDOUN county.... which is in VA......
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monna maa vadi school lo academic awards achivement ki vellanu.... they published all awards list and circulated to parents.
last category award in the list is for them who scored gpa 4 or above 4. nenu mottam count chesanu.... statistics are givne below

GPA 4 or above for
9th grade only 80 students and total around 700

10th grade only 60 students and total around 700

11th grade only 40+ students and total around 550
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Nsk9876:




andariki kaadu,

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Nsk9876
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This is the extension thread for "SAT questions - Calling parents"
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