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Esperanza
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Posted on Thursday, August 01, 2013 - 2:29 am:    Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Thanks rij and kishore bros.
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Rijukratu
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Posted on Thursday, August 01, 2013 - 12:04 am:    Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

idi antha thappu brothers...only simple majority is needed...

371D, 371E AP ki sambandhichinave...but that has nothing to do with the state formation...once the state is formed these articles become redundant and therefore lapse...they will be repealed later...

7th schedule lo different subjects untaayi which are divided between union and states...371E prakaaram oka central university establish chesaaru AP lo..ee central university union kindaki vastundi as that is given under union list in 7th schedule...and this was inserted by 32nd amendment...again this has nothing to do with state formation...

T ni inka evaru aapaleru... :-)
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Musicfan
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Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2013 - 5:56 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Esper mana

http://www.mightylaws.in/725/telangana-constitutional-issues-state-formation

http://www.lawteacher.net/administrative-law/essays/telangana-constitutional-issues-in-new-law-essays.php

“Political will and Parliament Bill are enough for formation of Telangana State as per the Constitutional procedures and requirements. Neither the consent of Andhra Pradesh Assembly, nor the Amendment to the Constitution is required for carving out a new territory from the boundaries of present Andhra Pradesh state.”

CLIPART--sad
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Vkishore
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Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2013 - 5:43 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post Print Post


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Ippudu supreme lo evadaina pil veste edaina weakpoint base cheskoni??




All the information open kabatti PIL direct ga veyyalemu mama...Ippudu secretariat lo anta mandi staff avasaram ledu....so konta mandi andhra ki shift avvali...vallu veyyochu citing personal problems

Then again parliament lo ee lopu bill pass aite court might not consider...just like when people are displaced when a dam is built...emanna special package ivvochu to help out those employees.
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Esperanza
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Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2013 - 5:01 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post Print Post


Vkishore:




Ippudu supreme lo evadaina pil veste edaina weakpoint base cheskoni??
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Vkishore
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Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2013 - 4:44 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Idigo mama from official Govt site hosting the Consitution of India

http://indiacode.nic.in/coiweb/welcome.html

Danilo section wise vellochu....Articl 371 section below in PDF form

http://lawmin.nic.in/olwing/coi/coi-english/Const.Pock%202Pg.Rom8Fsss(27).pdf

Read it in full 371E is for establishment of a central university.

371D is about equitable employment opportunities in entire state.

Kakapote people are forgetting 371-J was introduced last year recommending formation of 6 districts and they can get a new amendment same way

So this will not stop telangana formation.
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Musicfan
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Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2013 - 4:43 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post Print Post


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.ikkada AP case lo 2/3 majority must nta for ammendment.




ammendment akkarlekunda chestam annaru, kani choosta unte tappettu ledu anukutna
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Esperanza
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Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2013 - 4:36 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post Print Post


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Diggi cheppinayyi sagam nijam sagam abaddam....ikkada AP case lo 2/3 majority must nta for ammendment.
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Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2013 - 4:32 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Riju mama vachi confirm cheste inka keka.

eenadu lo article chaduvutunna, chronology of t-movement

gentleman agreement ki issues vaste Indira two times 8-point, 6-point formula techi control chesindi, taruvata annagaru 610 GO techi,

Only soniamma, just for her son changed things,

Hope still something comesup to hold this separation, but people are mentally separated.
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Esperanza
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Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2013 - 4:25 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Riju tammi...deeni meeda nee opinion enti??....idi nijamaithe indiramma ki jai kodata life lo first time.
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Esperanza
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Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2013 - 4:22 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

In normal circumstances, the formation of new states is governed by Articles 2, 3 and 4 of the Constitution.
Article 2 deals with ‘Admission or establishment of new states’; Article 3 with ‘Formation of new states and alteration of areas, boundaries or names of existing states’.
Nod of 50% states needed
Article 4 of the Constitution deals with ‘Laws made under Articles 2 and 3 provide for the amendment of First and Fourth Schedules (of the Constitution) and supplemental, incidental and consequential matters.’

Article 4 (2) states: ‘No such law as aforesaid shall be deemed to be an amendment of this Constitution for the purposes of Article 368.’ And Article 368 empowers Parliament to make amendments to the Constitution.

This made it easy for the NDA government to create the three new states from Uttar Pradesh, Madhya Pradesh and Bihar. But Telangana faces a peculiar situation
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After the two agitations, one in 1969 for Telangana state, and another in 1972 for pro-Andhra protagonists, the then Prime Minister Indira Gandhi had brought in the 32nd Constitutional Amendment Bill, by inserting new Articles, 371 (D) and 371 (E) under the head ‘Special provisions with respect to the state of Andhra Pradesh.’

This was done to bring equitable opportunities and facilities to people belonging to different parts of the state for public employment and education and establishment of a Central University in Andhra Pradesh.

When the 32nd Amendment was adopted in Parliament, it was duly inserted in the Seventh Schedule of the Constitution which deals with Union, State and Concurrent Lists.
The creation of Telangana may impinge on the Seventh Schedule. And that has created the problem.

Article 368 also says that any measure that seeks to make any changes in the Seventh Schedule requires to be adopted by a ‘special majority’.

This means that the Bill has to be passed in each House by a majority of the total membership of that House, and by a majority of not less than two-thirds of members of that House present and voting.

Not only that. Article also says the amendment must be ratified by the legislatures of not less than one half of all the states in India by a resolution to that effect.

In this background, the UPA government, which is struggling to keep its simple majority in Parliament, will have to think twice before making a constitutional amendment as it requires a special majority, and also 50 per cent of legislatures in the country need to approve the same.

This means that unless there is a consensus on the issue at national level, it will not be possible to get both the constitutional amendment and approval of 50 per cent of legislatures for the same.
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