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Rijukratu
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Gaali:

Nenu chavina daani prakaaram, Velamas and Kammas are branches of the same trunk.


yes, nenu kooda ade anukuntunna annai...same tribe or two related tribes...
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Godfather:

Riju annai.. rajputs story ettu..


rajputs origins gurinchi different theories unnai...rajputs lo bocchudu clans, subclans unnaayi...annitiki vaati vaati traditional theories unnaayi like agnikula kshatriya myth, suryavanshi descendants ani, chandravanshi descendants ani, mahabharatam lo paalpanchukunnaaru ani etc...

all the rajputs were tribals, or foreign invaders etc...they were outside the varna system when they got the power...they wanted to legitimise their power...according to hindu smritis only kshatriyas were allowed to rule...so they developed these different myths with the help of brahmanas and traced their geneologies upto suryanvashis or chandravanshis which makes them kshatriyas... :-)

when rajputs were emerging during post-gupta period, india was going through a turmoil...hunas started invading in 5th cnetury AD, then muslims in 8th century...trade was on decline and towns were on decline...agriculture was expanding and tribals were being incorporated into hindu fold...there was no one powerful central empire like guptas or mauryas...this is when tribals like rajputs started establishing their owen local kingdoms...

as rajputs were tribes, their society was based on kinship ties...land under their control was parcelled among their kin...subinfeudation followed...and slowly they expanded...this is how different subclans of different clans of rajputs came into existence...

rajputs origins gurinchi inka chaala undi...detailed account kaavaali ante pedda books ye unnayi...antha details vaddu anukunte oka ignou booklet isthaanu... :-)
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Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2013 - 8:23 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

recharla ma bava valla gotram lol
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dobt vundi.

Velamas and Kammas are both of the same origin. There is no doubt about that. History proves that. They got splitted only during the period of Kakatiyas. When Ganapathi deva of Kakatiya dynasty had no sons and his only daughter Rudrama devi became the queen of kakatiya dynasty these people got split. People who are more liberal and who supported Rudrama Devi became Kammas and those who are more conservative and opposed a lady taking over the thrown of Kakatiya kingdom were Velamas. Rest is the history that everybody knows...

Yes as you said kammas and velamas have some common gothrams.
Ex: N.T.R 's gothram is Recharla which is same as Palnati Brahma Naidu (Is he a Velama ? or Kamma ?)

Also you can see many last names/surnames for kammas and velamas look same like ending with "neni" .
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Andhramass:

nuvvu inkka padukoledhaa?



leyy annai
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Kingchoudary:

Velamodaa mee valle gaa AP divide ayipoyindhi



telangana doralu ani seppu,telangana doralaki bobbili dorala ki konchem pogaru kula pichi ekkuva.

mmeu andhra vallam sakkaga vuntamMOVIEART--bemmi.lungi2
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nuvvu inkka padukoledhaa?
anni dananallo Annadanam Minna lal salam
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Kingchoudary:

Velamas kams nundi vacharu, vallani veli vesaru anta for some reason, alaa veli veyabadda vallani velama antaru ani yevaro pedhayana o paali seppadu....



Palnadu BattlePalnadu region is located in Guntur District of Andhra Pradesh. Dodda Nayudu and his son Brahma Nayudu served as ministers under Haihayas kings such as Alugu Raju ruling at Macherla. Brahma Nayudu-a Kamma warrior strived for progressive and egalitarian ideals. Nalagama Raju and Narasinga Raju were ruling at Gurajala, a small town near Macherla. Nagamma, a widow and an orthodox minister, did not relish the progressive ideals of Brahma. In a •••• fight, a popular sport of those times, Macherla lost to Gurajala. Brahma and his followers had to live in exile as part of the gamble. Subsequent to the return from exile tensions between both the kings led to the battle of Palnadu (1182 CE) at Karempudi village. Macherla was defeated, a generation of warriors perished and Brahma Nayudu took to renunciation. Brahma nayudu called all the castes and religions for a combined meal where every one equally sits together to eat food which is called " SAHAPANKTHI BHOJANALU" , " CHAPA KUDU" . The people who sat and had the food together are called "Kamma" and who left with out having food are called "Velama". Originally both the "Kammas" and "velama" are same.
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Rijukratu:

velamala surnames, kammolla surnames same undadaaniki reasons, history yento... assalu veella origins yento...



avunu annai enduko naku telvaduv surnames same vuntayi.
chennamaneni rajeswararo ex tdp telangana, chennamaneni srname to chows kuda vunnaru.

settipalli initial kuda botha kams and velamas ki vundi
MSR intiperu meneni, danlo kuda vunnaru.
mechineni vallu maku relatives.
galla
gadde
settipalli
inka chala names common ga vuntayi
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enti EO ellipoyinattena, confirmed aa okka post ke?

Come back EO ji..
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Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2013 - 12:26 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Riju annai.. rajputs story ettu..
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naaku evaro chepparuuu Khamma lo nunchi VELI vesthe velmalu ayyaru anta.. MOVIEART--ali.smirk
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pooni...CLIPART--lol2
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Yevadu bey naaku single vesina chuthiya gaadu....
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Rijukratu:




Nenu chavina daani prakaaram, Velamas and Kammas are branches of the same trunk. That is one reason why their surnames match a lot (phonetically).

Okappudu matuku andaru Kapu le ani kooda chadivaanu.
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Naathu history teacher avvalani chala istam vundedhi....

Ikkada NL ki vachaka ikkada cows ni penche vidhanam chusi aavulu penche ujjogam vasthey bagunnu ani aasa, ippudu iche salary ichi inkonni benefits ichi aavulu penchu ante happy gaa penchutha....
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Rijukratu:

annai, i am history buff...naaku interesting ga anipistundi indian society evolution gurinchi chaduthu unte


same pinch...by mistake, engineering side occhesa
Be Positive--by Sir Gaali
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btw nagamma reddy
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Proofdada:

brahmanaidu velama?




yes annai velama
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brahmanaidu velama?



Yes....
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Kingchoudary:

Bramhanaidu period lo jarigindhi anukonta....


brahmanaidu velama?
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Rijukratu:

oh..interesting...idi yeppudu jarigi undacchu annai? assalu kamma, velama caste origins yenti? yeppudu picture loki vacchaaru?




Bramhanaidu period lo jarigindhi anukonta....
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ok :-)
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Naaistam:

caste gurinchi enduku neeku baa neeyenkamma...thalaki ekkinchukoku edava sodhi adhi


annai, i am history buff...naaku interesting ga anipistundi indian society evolution gurinchi chaduthu unte...civil service exam lo one of my optional was history and we get to read origins of many castes...most interesting vacchesi rajputs...
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caste gurinchi enduku neeku baa neeyenkamma...thalaki ekkinchukoku edava sodhi adhi
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cops...
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Proofdada:

source policollu anukunta...


ante? CLIPART--thinking
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source policollu anukunta.




MOVIEART--ali.etakarammanasi kummuko inka.
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Rijukratu:

assalu kamma, velama caste origins yenti? yeppudu picture loki vacchaaru?


source policollu anukunta...
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Kingchoudary:

Velamas kams nundi vacharu, vallani veli vesaru anta for some reason, alaa veli veyabadda vallani velama antaru ani yevaro pedhayana o paali seppadu....


oh..interesting...idi yeppudu jarigi undacchu annai? assalu kamma, velama caste origins yenti? yeppudu picture loki vacchaaru?

naaku yedanna e-book unte pampandi veeti meeda...
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abba hemi sefithiri...nijama adhi...
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Naaistam:


naaku telisi veellantha oke tribe or related tribes nundi vacchi untaaru annai...mana bharata desa dowrbhagyam entante charitra sariga record cheyaledu ye dasa lonu, ye samayam lonu...there are very few literary resources which can be truly considered as historical chronicles like rajatarangani...as a result most of our history is obscure...
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Rijukratu:

velamala surnames, kammolla surnames same undadaaniki reasons, history yento... assalu veella origins yento...




Velamas kams nundi vacharu, vallani veli vesaru anta for some reason, alaa veli veyabadda vallani velama antaru ani yevaro pedhayana o paali seppadu....
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Naaistam:

okallu modati bharya ki santanam rendo vallu rendo bharya ki sanatanam anta riju baa


CLIPART--conf
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okallu modati bharya ki santanam rendo vallu rendo bharya ki sanatanam anta riju baa MOVIEART--bemmi.etakaram
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velamala surnames, kammolla surnames same undadaaniki reasons, history yento... assalu veella origins yento...
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Velamodaa mee valle gaa AP divide ayipoyindhi MOVIEART--kota.kick....
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Kulam matham ee matalu vinte MOVIEART--bemmi.madatha
ALLAM VESINA PESARATTU
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Gaali:


Nuvvu ID request pettinappudu nee ID choosi naa friend join avuthunnadu anukonna. Tana inti peru same and he is a very close friend of mine.



mee friend kadani teliste na id accept cheyyanichevaru kada annai, any how ID marheyyandi annai db rules ki against ga vunte
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Fakestar thammi naan bhi last janma lo vellama dorane CLIPART--smoke....



MOVIEART--bemmi.angry
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Annai memu velama dora zamindar vamsaniki chendina backround family madi, maa tata lu anii avagotti maa daggariki vachesariki chippa migilcharu.
KVP gadu maku relative avutadu, lafoot KCR gadu kuda




Nuvvu ID request pettinappudu nee ID choosi naa friend join avuthunnadu anukonna. Tana inti peru same and he is a very close friend of mine.
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Fakestar thammi naan bhi last janma lo vellama dorane CLIPART--smoke....
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Gaali
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Post Number: 35604
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Edo_okati:

Mee kula pichi janala madhya nenu undalenu.




Neeku iyyalti varaku kanipinchaleda idi? MOVIEART--bemmi.lol2

State/Prajalu divide ayyarani emotional avuthunnav thammudu. Atta meda kopam dutta meda teerchukonnatlundi nee pani.

C'mon dorling CLIPART--kiss
Be Positive!
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Fakester
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Post Number: 135
Registered: 07-2013
Posted From: 82.19.12.143

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Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2013 - 12:28 pm:    Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Kc annai ki pedda doubt teercha
అన్న రామయ్య కు చిన్న రామయ్య కు అభిమానిని
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Proofdada
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Post Number: 126323
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Kingchoudary:


pilla pulka ani kooda soodkunda entapadi rakki mari cheppichukunyav gandha...thupak
aa bongulo signature le...
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Proofdada
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Post Number: 126322
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Fakester:


MOVIEART--sunil.cry
aa bongulo signature le...
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Fakester
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Post Number: 133
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Kingchoudary:



Annai memu velama dora zamindar vamsaniki chendina backround family madi, maa tata lu anii avagotti maa daggariki vachesariki chippa migilcharu.
KVP gadu maku relative avutadu, lafoot KCR gadu kuda
అన్న రామయ్య కు చిన్న రామయ్య కు అభిమానిని
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Kingchoudary
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Post Number: 86269
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Fakester:

What this kula pichi ya, kulam kudu pettadu, matam mandu poyyadu. Leave it ya




Ippati varaku nee kulam yedho cheppaledhu MOVIEART--bemmi.muddu....
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Kingchoudary
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Post Number: 86268
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Edo_okati:




Take care bava, Gtalk lo touch lo vundu....
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Fakester
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Post Number: 132
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What this kula pichi ya, kulam kudu pettadu, matam mandu poyyadu. Leave it ya
అన్న రామయ్య కు చిన్న రామయ్య కు అభిమానిని
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Kichidi
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Post Number: 29001
Registered: 02-2010
Posted From: 66.193.93.3

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Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2013 - 10:39 am:    Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Manchi decision baava. I support you.
ITALIAN MAFIASOCLIPART--smoke
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Pokiri1
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Post Number: 21243
Registered: 03-2006
Posted From: 192.35.35.34

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Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2013 - 10:02 am:    Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

packs annai CLIPART--bawling
Imagination is more Important than Knowledge
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Naaistam
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Post Number: 40569
Registered: 07-2005
Posted From: 115.113.9.11

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Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2013 - 9:58 am:    Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

EO annai CLIPART--angry
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Proofdada
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Post Number: 126307
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Posted From: 93.83.138.98

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Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2013 - 9:57 am:    Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

balisindhi annay neekuMOVIEART--bemmi.sarle
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Dobbey
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Post Number: 17522
Registered: 12-2009
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Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2013 - 9:57 am:    Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

MOVIEART--bemmi.angry saradaki esaaam le annai
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Edo_okati
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Post Number: 22982
Registered: 03-2007
Posted From: 199.204.164.130

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Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2013 - 9:56 am:    Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Mee kula pichi janala madhya nenu undalenu.
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