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Godfather
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massu octavia kotha model ettundi ?
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Vidhata:

meeku Golf, maaku Polo anukunta (indian market).




kadhu both different

India market lo golf undi
anni dananallo Annadanam Minna lal salam
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Kubang:

ivvala day off. consumer reports lo research chesthanna. small cars lo VW golf super antannadu




meeku Golf, maaku Polo anukunta (indian market). car ekketappudu jagarta annay, tala tangu mantundi naaku 2 times ayindi mari anta takkuva height ento

car drive & performance bagundi annaru but it didn't like over priced compared to i20
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ohh avuna.. maaku ikkada DSG luu thakuva ley.. manual eey vuntayi max..
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Godfather:




GF uncle

DSG issues , DSG issues , DSG issues
anni dananallo Annadanam Minna lal salam
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Kotha golf bagundi ..
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Bignole:

Jetta inthaku mundu




Jetta waste, small engine. Golf is different, best selling car in the world. 170 hp engine for such a small car. I haven't decided but ratings avi chaala bagunnayi mari. chooddam July/Aug time frame lo konta edo okati.
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Kubang:

VW


MOVIEART--bemmi.kevv

voddu hannay vadanu Jetta inthaku mundu. Sollu poo car lu
CLIPART--smokeTmmirekkuvaithe Manchamekkali Kani Spot ki Raakudadhu Raa
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ivvala day off. consumer reports lo research chesthanna. small cars lo VW golf super antannaduMOVIEART--bemmi.adi
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MOVIEART--bemmi.dance
CLIPART--smokeTmmirekkuvaithe Manchamekkali Kani Spot ki Raakudadhu Raa
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The well-rounded Accord is our top-rated affordable family sedan. The new 2.4-liter four-cylinder works well with the CVT and got an impressive 30 mpg overall. The unobtrusive CVT acts like a conventional automatic. The 3.5-liter V6 is punchy and refined, and with the six-speed automatic gets a very good 26 mpg overall. Handling is quite agile and secure, and the ride is supple and controlled. The cabin is comfortable, with supportive seats, but the rear bench is snug for three. A backup camera is standard. Top-trim models have a fussy radio. A plug-in hybrid, with an EV range of 10 to 15 miles, is available in selected states. A regular hybrid arrives in the summer.

Road Testsedan EX-L V6
It may take a second, or even a third, glance to recognize the difference, but the Honda Accord has been redesigned for 2013. And though Honda has slipped with other models it redesigned in recent years, it nailed this one. While it gives up some pizzazz and style to its competitors, the new Accord is roomy, nice to drive, well equipped, and very fuel efficient.

In the final tally, the four-cylinder Accord jumped 10 points in our Ratings to take over the top spot among entry-level sedans. And the V6 is behind only the Toyota Camry Hybrid and V6 Camry among high-end family sedans. But neither Camry drives as well.

Its 2.4-liter four-cylinder engine, when matched with the smooth continuously variable transmission, squeezes out an excellent 30 mpg overall and 40 on the highway. That's as good as a tiny Honda Fit and better than most compact cars. The 3.5-liter V6 is super-smooth and quite powerful, snapping off a 6.3-second 0-to-60 mph time that is competitive with some sports cars. And its 26 mpg overall is among the best in its class.

Inside, you are treated to one of the best driving positions available, comfortable seats, and terrific visibility. All Accords have a standard backup camera, rare among family sedans. Up-level models include advanced safety features seldom found in this category, including forward-collision and lane-departure warning systems, and Honda's new Lane Watch blind-spot camera system.

Honda has also kept the Accord's pricing competitive, with prices the same as or less than many other similarly equipped family sedans.

Two versions of the Accord hybrid will be offered. First out of the gate will be a plug-in hybrid. Our first impressions are that it operates smoothly and accelerates strongly, thanks to the shot of electric torque. As expected, the battery consumes some trunk space, but decent room remains. A more conventional hybrid, which shares the plug-in's basic system architecture, will be available later in 2013.

Why buy one:

The cabin is very accommodating, with supportive seats and generous driving position
It provides an impressive mix of fuel economy and performance
Competitive pricing is combined with very comprehensive standard equipment, including a back-up camera and automatic climate control; high-tech electronic safety aids are available on higher trim levels
It's somewhat sportier to drive than the average family sedan.
Excellent driver visibility
You can get a manual transmission, which is rare among family sedans
Why not buy one:
Honda's strict options structure means you'd better like what they give you...and no complaining. It would be nice, for example, to get an optional power seat or satellite radio on the LX. Or satellite radio or a sunroof on the Sport. Or Homelink on any model below the EX-L V6. But Honda makes you pay a lot more for a higher trim version to get them.
The LaneWatch side camera system is gimmicky and distracting; no conventional blind-spot monitoring system is available
The sexy new Ford Fusion and the sleek Hyundai Sonata continue to make the ever-so-practical Accord look dowdy
Viable alternatives:
Hyundai Sonata
Nissan Altima
Toyota Camry
Best version/options to get:

To get the best feature set at a reasonable price, consider the EX version. And most buyers should be pleased with the four-cylinder engine.
The Driving Experience
Ride comfort and noise: Both versions of the Accord have a similar taut and tied-down ride. Bumps are well absorbed and isolated, and not transferred to the cabin occupants. However, short and quick motions make the ride less comforting than it could be. On the highway the ride is mostly composed, but marred a bit by short pitches. The slightly stiffer ride in the V6 EX-L is likely due to its lower-profile tires.

One thing you don't get with the redesigned Accord is road noise. This perennial bugaboo is only evident if you really listen hard for it. An added bonus is that the continuously variable transmission and four-cylinder engine work without generating the cacophony of engine noise found in similarly equipped competitive models. The V6 engine is even quieter, producing just a smooth hum. Both models have good isolation from wind noise as well.

Handling: The Accord is one of the more agile family sedans, with its taut, tied-down feeling reminiscentof the athletic feeling of older Accords. Body lean is well-controlled and there is decent steering feedback. The Sport's handling is a bit sharper but at the cost of a slightly stiffer ride. On the track behavior was predictable, with the four-cylinder being more enjoyable than the V6. The slightly larger tires on the V6 version give it slightly better grip, but both cars performed well in our avoidance maneuver.

Powertrain: Both the four- and six-cylinder engines impress. Even better, the continuously variable transmission can serve as the new benchmark for CVTs.

Most buyers will be quite happy with the smooth and refined 185-hp, 2.4-liter four-cylinder engine and CVT. The engine features Honda's "Earth Dreams" technology, which, behind the marketing speak, means it features variable valve timing and direct fuel injection, the latter of which gives the engine a slight clatter at idle.

The transmission is so devoid of typical CVT annoyances that it can pass for a conventional automatic. It doesn't contribute to any inappropriate engine revving, and "shifts" are super smooth and quick. Our only gripe is an occasional jolt under heavy, full-throttle acceleration.

Overall fuel economy is impressive, coming in at 30 mpg, while highway mileage is an equally good 40 mpg.

While you might expect this drivetrain to be a bit of a dog, its sub-eight second 0-to-60 mph sprints are impressive for a family sedan with a base four-cylinder. It beats most direct rivals from Nissan, Toyota, and Chevrolet. What's more, a manual transmission is also available, a rarity in the family sedan market. It's only available with cloth seats in the sedan, however.

Buyers who want a bit more performance can opt for the 278-hp, 3.5-liter V6, which uses "variable cylinder management" to improve fuel economy. Under low-load situations, such as highway cruising, three of the cylinders are shut down. This results in a moaning sound and some rough vibrations, typically occurring around 1,800-2,000 RPM.

Otherwise, the engine is super smooth and quite powerful, snapping off a 6.3 second 0-to-60 mph time that is competitive with some sports cars. And this performance comes seemingly without straining the V6, making the experience more pleasant than some competitors' turbocharged four-cylinders (we're looking at you Hyundai, Kia, and Volkswagen). Its impressive 26 mpg overall makes the V6 more efficient than those "up-level" turbo four-cylinder engines.

This engine is only available with a six-speed automatic in the sedan, although V6 coupe versions offer a manual. The automatic shifts smoothly and responsively, but did need prodding at times to invoke a downshift.

Unless you opt for the Sport trim and its paddle shifters, you are stuck with no way of choosing gear ratios in the automatic- or CVT-equipped Accord. There is a "sport" mode, which holds the gear/ratio longer to boost acceleration.

Engaging "Eco" mode holds the car in higher, fuel-saving gears and blunts engine power, to save fuel. The instrument cluster lights change to a green hue, to inform you that you're being "eco-minded." Dare submit to the devil on your shoulder and drive without regard to fuel consumption, and the glow turns red...to shame you.

Two versions of the Accord hybrid will be offered. First out of the gate will be a plug-in hybrid. Our initial impressions are that it operates smoothly and accelerates strongly, thanks to the shot of electric torque. As expected, the battery consumes some trunk space, but decent room remains. A more conventional hybrid, which shares the plug-in's basic system architecture, will be available later in 2013.

Braking: Overall performance was sound for both versions of the Accord, with stops on the wet surface coming in at a bit longer.

Headlights: Low beam performance is good, with decent levels of intensity and good visibility forward and to the side of the road. The halogen high beams provide very good forward visibility, and are an improvement in intensity. There is a distinct cutoff with the low beams, which is more evident when driving over dips and bumps.

Inside The Cabin
Driving position: Drivers will find plenty of space in this accommodating cabin, with nothing infringing on head, leg, knee, or foot room. Drivers both tall and short could dial in a good driving position behind the tilt-and-telescopic steering wheel. Short drivers did prefer the power seats, which offer more height adjustment, and many found the center armrest to be a bit truncated.

Visibility: Overall visibility is excellent, particularly in an era when swoopy, coupe-like styling and thick roof pillars have made driving some cars akin to looking out of a gun turret. Instead, the Accord has upright styling, thin roof pillars, and a low beltline, giving it a wide expanse of glass all around.

All trims come with a standard backup camera. The camera works well, displaying the image in the large center screen. Higher trims (EX-L and above) include gridlines and the ability to change view angles.

In the race to innovate blind-spot detection systems, Honda offers a system called Lanewatch. It uses a camera on the passenger-side mirror that displays the right-hand flank of the car in the center-dash screen when the turn signal is activated.

This can be helpful when merging into traffic, parallel parking, or double-checking for bicyclists or runners. But watching the moving images while driving can be distracting. You can shut off the system, turn it on via a button on the turn-signal stalk, or even leave it on full time. It has various grid lines to help you gauge distance, but the screen still requires a lot of attention.

Lanewatch doesn't cover the left-hand side of the car, which can be more difficult to monitor. Overall, we'd rather have a conventional blind-zone monitoring system, but none is available.

Seat comfort and access: The basic cloth front seats are wide, spacious, and supportive. The cushions are firm, the backrest well contoured, and lower-back support, while lacking adjustable lumbar, is decent.

Moving up to higher trim levels brings you power-seat adjustments, including lumbar. The leather chairs deliver even better support, with supple cushions. They also come with standard two-position seat memory, a unique feature in this class.

The rear seat is supportive and comfortable for two passengers, but tight for three adults. Access to the cabin, both front and rear, is very easy.

Controls and gauges: The Accord's gauges are a model of clarity. All have a large center dashboard screen, which clearly displays audio information, the rear-camera display, and navigation maps.

Most controls are easy to use. Basic Accords (LX, Sport, EX) have a simple-to-use radio with a tuning knob and large buttons and knobs. Opting for the EX-L adds in a more complicated radio that uses a small touch screen for certain functions. Navigating the screen can be a bit convoluted. The touch screen and center dashboard screen seem to get out of sync; for instance, the tuning knob only works if the audio screen is showing. The touch screen needs a firm tap to register. There's also a delay in changing from one radio station to the next as the screen graphics struggle to catch up with the twist of the knob or tap of the button.

Top-trim versions (Touring and EX-L with navigation) have an even more complicated radio with a touch screen and no tuning knob. Instead a low-mounted multifunction knob does double duty, controlling both navigation and audio functions.

Climate features: All Accords come with standard dual-zone climate control. Up-level models allow you to adjust the climate system by voice, but using the hard controls is faster and easier.

Interior tech: Honda's first venture into the world of in-car music apps is Aha with HondaLink. It's a neat system. The corresponding smart-phone app includes Slacker Radio, which is preset with a number of different stations.

Bluetooth integration works well with iPhone and Android, and is simple to set up. The Pandora app even streams via Bluetooth rather than tether through the mobile device. Music on your device can be accessed by voice command, and text messages will be read aloud and can be responded to with pre-set replies.

Interior fit and finish: The Accord has a padded dashboard top and similar trim on the door panels. The buttons and knobs have a solid feel, but some switchgear looks and feels cheap.

Everything fits together well, but cheap touches are evident. The "carpet" is like a trunk liner, albeit with nice floor mats covering it. The trunk is fully lined, but the wiring loom is exposed.

Cabin storage and cargo room: Three large suitcases will fit in the trunk, along with two duffle bags. But be aware of the hinges, which protrude into the trunk and may crush fragile items. The rear seatback folds to expand the trunk, but the one-piece design is less versatile than the split design used in many competitive models. A temporary spare tire is mounted under the trunk floor in both models.

Safety Notes
Safety belts: The front-row seatbelts have pretensioners.

Air bags: Driver and passenger front- and side-impact air bags and curtain head-protection air bags are standard. The occupant sensing system will disable the air bags in the front passenger seat if the seat is unoccupied or if a small occupant, such as a child, is seated there. Crash severity and driver's seat position influence the deployment level for the driver's air bag.

Head restraints: There are locking head restraints in all seating positions. Both the front and rear outboard ones are tall enough to provide sufficient whiplash protection even when they're fully lowered. The rear center head restraint is not tall enough, even when raised, to provide any protection.

Crash-avoidance systems: The Accord comes standard with electronic stability control, traction control, brake assist, antilock brakes, and a rear camera. Honda's LaneWatch right blind zone camera system isstandard on EX and higher trims. EX-L and higher models come with standard forward collision warning and lane departure warning, generous features for the pricetag. The visual forward collision warning could be more pronounced. Lane departure warning is active over 40 mph, which helps reduce annoyance from false alarms when driving on rural secondary roads. Adaptive cruise control is available on the Touring.

Driving with kids: It may be difficult to secure rear-facing child restraints with the seatbelt due to the belt anchorages located forward of the seat bight. Forward-facing seats should prove secure with the seatbelt, though the head restraints may need to be removed for the child seat to sit flush against the seatback. Lower-LATCH anchors are available in both rear outboard positions, but they are recessed behind the seat cushion and can be awkward to access. Three top-tether anchors located on the rear parcel shelf are easily accessible.


Reliability
We expect reliability to be better than average, according to our latest subscriber survey.

Tested model: 2013 EX-L sedan, 3.5-liter V6, 6-speed automatic
Major options: None.
This road test applies to the current model year of this vehicle.

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