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Evo_rendu
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Posted on Sunday, April 26, 2009 - 10:53 am:    Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

flor - we moved from the Hague in 2003, having lived there for 7 years. it was great to begin with, but it started to grind after 4 years, and eventually we needed for our own sanity to move on.
it is incredibly overcrowded, the public transport went privatised and went from being amazing to crap (albeit still 1000 times better than the UK!). there is a lot of what we call rudeness - being pushed aside in streets for example because you are in the way of someone else walking, no-one opening doors to help someone else - dutch society is dog eat dog. the dutch arent tolerant, they just dont give a **** about anyone else and what they are doing as long as it doesnt intrude on themselves.
the racism was hard as well.... we were there when Pim Fortuyn was murdered - you're ok being a white buitenlander as that is somehow different to being a black buitenlander. to be honest, you & your husband will have no problem, but as your daughter will be of mixed race she will look more "turkish/moroccan" and if you are with her alone you might have problems.
the hague has a big turkish/moroccan "problem" - there were riots around Holland Spoor a few years ago, and crime is quite high & violent in a few regions.
the work environment - yes most people speak english and they use that against you in some situations - a lot of times people assume you cant speak dutch and will openly talk about you in front of you in dutch. saying that a few words of dutch goes a long way in shops etc. we've had the irony though of being told "dont bother with dutch - i speak english so well" and then a few minutes later being berated by someone else for not speaking dutch well enough after X years!
there is also an unspoken but very obvious mafia - "if you aint dutch you aint much".... you will find that you will earn a lower salary and have lower status and slower promotions compared to your equally qualified dutch colleague. my husband got a Master's degree from a top uni in the UK but was told this only counted as an HND in his company because it wasnt as good as a Delft degree! and so got paid at an HND level....

the tax rules are good in the Netherlands as well, and a lot is tax deductible eg 100% of the mortgage interest is tax deductible which meant in our situation the tax office ended up refunding about 1/3 of our mortgage payments!

saying that, food, alchohol, day to day living, rental, petrol etc are a lot cheaper than the SE of England.

and the Hague is an extremely cultural city - there are lots of museums, shows, cinemas (mainstream & art), dance, plays, wonderful restaurants & cafes. it's also remarkable compact as well. and I loved living close to the beach. and you can get to other countries (France, Belgium, Germany, Luxembourg) etc within hours for great long weekend holidays.


intha manner less brutes naa dutch fellaws
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Without trying to sound racist (because I definitely am NOT) if you are living in an estate of average or above average price range, any coloured people are looked at differently. (on the same level as everybody else) I say this from experience. The estate I live in is better than the normal, and I live amongst coloured, gay, lesbian and hetro caucasians, and because we are all " succesful" everybody is regarded as equal. I think you might understand what I mean.
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At the end of last year on two seperate occasions, we had traffic jams totalling over 800km at one point. :scared:
You can imagine what fun that was. I do agree that if you work local cycling or public transport are very good options.

As for the language, most kids nowadays spend all their time on computers, listening to music (UK & USA) or watching american TV, that the level of spoken English is now very high, it's just the older group that has trouble.


800 km traffic jam anta
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antha two lane roads yemoo hahahahah manager monna CA freeways chusi bhayam vesi driving chesi undadu
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holland lo 19 years nunchi unna okathani views

Traffic - definitely worse. Drivers are impatient, and on small overcrowded roads, everybody drives way too fast.
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intaki netherlands vastavyulu evaru?
Ammayya ippudu prasantam gaa undi,, Bakugan poyayi..
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major European producer of synthetic drugs, including ecstasy, and cannabis cultivator; important gateway for cocaine, heroin, and hashish entering Europe; major source of US-bound ecstasy; large financial sector vulnerable to money laundering; significant consumer of ecstasy

south americcann country lekka undi
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RLD ki ellava leda
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evaru leni chota amudam chette maha vruksham KECEE gaa




Nenu vere desalu thiragaledhu kabatti no comment, fact yemi ante naa friends US lo migulusthunna danikanna enu 30% yekkuva migulusthunna cool gaa....

End of the month manam dekedhi yentha migilindhi ane kadaa ....
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manager aaa sea world ki pothey sagam mandi nee lati desis untaru galloki chusthaaa
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GF gaa naaku thelusu penku gaadi billing, ye mata ki aa mata cheppukovali, chala yekkuvaa aa nallodiki billing ....
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evaru leni chota amudam chette maha vruksham KECEE gaa..
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neevu choosava KC gaa..
Our Country Will Get the Government It Deserves!
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Fact yemi ante penku gaadi billing o paali chusthey shock avutharu migathavallu....
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manager 6 months california lo neevu thirigina san diego LA ki daggarlo unnaa.. thokkalo sea world grand canyon universal studio... americans evadu care cheyyadu vatini nevendo akkadiki velli oka 2 days undi america meeda judgement pass cheshtunnav
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nijama




begging ki mugging ki chala chinna time difference ba. pirstu beggingu, manam no ante mugging.

DC lanti areas lo begging vundadu, direct attack ye
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420 manager yemi country sami meedi... asala danni country ani yela antunnavv

rendu rojulu grand canyon ki nevada ki CA lo universal studio ki pakkana san diego lo sea world ki poyi US motham thirigesaa not fit to live ante ninnu yem anali
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420:

homeless people in LA .




manager
some of those areas are really scary shixt. LA lo gps lekunda dari tappadu frd okadu, raktha kanneru aadi ki
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but also I was amazed about amount of homeless people in LA ... man scary .. agressive begging .. I made few photos to screw one of my AMerican colleague .. he used to make fun of India





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//agressive begging

nijama..
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PD gaa .. please pardon Nakkudee.. he has not seen anything beyond .. Grocery store , fuel bunk and his office compound .. and he is scared to venture after 6
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Mental gadilaa vunnadu ye Naidukudu gaadu, konnalaku antha India ki ravalsina vallame kada raa munda aa vishayam marchipothunnavu....
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dutch official language yendi sami comedy gaaa... maa ameria vadu vasthey kuda dutch lo matladatharaaa hahahaha india lo extinct ayipothunna konda jathi languages laga ee dutch language okati malla adi official language country ki
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<<<
mana 420 manager monna LAX lo digi norellabetti paiki chustha undi untadu...

>>>

Naakuudee ... really I was amazed at US in positive way .. but also I was amazed about amount of homeless people in LA ... man scary .. agressive begging .. I made few photos to screw one of my AMerican colleague .. he used to make fun of India .. after watching slumdog .



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puhrar ga nuvvemanna obama gaadi menalludivaa???
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piss kodithey kottuku poye countries merunu population growth lekundaa state welfare mee kuchoni bathikesthaaa
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inko comedy official language dutch and frisian anta .. ee pichhollu matladedi rest of the world lo 99.5% janalaki ardham kadu
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US public debt almost 80% anukunta kadha..




http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/

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area comparision: slightly less than twice the size of New Jersey

denemma comedy NJ nee US lo small state ... maaa OK lo 1/4 untadi ee lekkana
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Redneck is deeply hurt ..
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land boundary 1000 KM coastal boundary 450 KM... denni country antunnaru ante inka yem anali
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annti kanna highlight total number of airoports 27 anta hahahahaha..

mana 420 manager monna LAX lo digi norellabetti paiki chustha undi untadu... appude erra bus ekki uru nunchi city ki vachhinodu buildings kesi yetta suthado ala chusi untadu

27 airports yendi sami comedy gaaa US lo 15000 airports unnay
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US public debt almost 80% anukunta kadha..
Our Country Will Get the Government It Deserves!
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public debt chudandriii 45% of GDP anta theraga credit meeda kuchoni bathikesthunnaru pani pata lekundaaa

external debt 2.27 trillion anta little sissy country with no army on the verge of total state bankruptsy ..
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Nee yabba mee NY okappudu Netherlands kinds vundedhi....
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The country has been one of the leading European nations for attracting foreign direct investment and is one of the four largest investors in the US. The pace of job growth reached 10-year highs in 2007, but economic growth fell sharply in 2008 as fallout from the world financial crisis constricted demand and raised the specter of a recession in 2009.

invest chesedemo US lo malla US vachhi not fit to live anta
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Yendhuku raa navvu, pichi nayalaa, akkadaki america mee menamama vooru, netherlands penku gaadi sontha vooru aynatte pichi nayala....
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population - 16 million
GDP - 600 billion

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/nl.html

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