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Author Message Prasanth Bewarse ke Bewarse! Username: Prasanth Post Number: 17115 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 203.199.213.4 Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 6:03 pm: vaarani ee thread ee sec.lokaa.. kaneesam misc section or technical sec. lo anna tosina artham undi. Durga Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Durga Post Number: 6193 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 12.144.110.131 Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 2:55 pm: badrio ..adento ceppu.memu kuuda telsukunttam Infinity Bewarse Username: Infinity Post Number: 2254 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 2:48 pm: infi mama inko sensitive issue kuda undhi...kani ikkada gelaka daluchukoledhu....ninnu oka roju offline savadobbuta aa issue meeda... Was busy with work... Adedo ikkadey post cheyyi mama... naa matti burra kanna.. ikkada vunna medhavula opinion telsukontey neeku manchindi.. go ahead! Badri Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Badri Post Number: 8201 Registered: 09-2004 Posted From: 130.243.43.217 Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 2:21 pm: //inka aa flowers konni roule idduvu le maama..nekosam binding prepare settunna... Megamama Vooriki Bewarse Username: Megamama Post Number: 4845 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 192.88.212.39 Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 2:19 pm: badrioo oo sinna meeting undi..vellostha Megamama Vooriki Bewarse Username: Megamama Post Number: 4844 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 192.88.212.39 Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 2:17 pm: //ippudu nenu aa issue gelikite boothulu dobbutavu neevu // as long as it comes into the perview of Indian MNCs we can always discuss..nothing is sensitive unless its personal to you.. neevu wrong info isthe obvious ga dobbutha inka aa flowers konni roule idduvu le maama..nekosam binding prepare settunna... Don_quixote Pilla Bewarse Username: Don_quixote Post Number: 78 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 203.200.95.130 Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 2:13 pm: badrio postu....nee sensitivity measure sethaam Badri Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Badri Post Number: 8197 Registered: 09-2004 Posted From: 130.243.43.217 Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 2:12 pm: megamama pettuko ippudu nenu aa issue gelikite boothulu dobbutavu neevu Megamama Vooriki Bewarse Username: Megamama Post Number: 4843 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 192.88.212.39 Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 2:09 pm: Badrio antha sensitive aa issue Keechakudu Pilla Bewarse Username: Keechakudu Post Number: 4 Registered: 04-2004 Posted From: 216.59.202.160 Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 2:08 pm: //TCS gurinchi bhale unnaayigaa....monnevulo india oppices lo pood asalu bagodu ani seppaaru // Megamama Vooriki Bewarse Username: Megamama Post Number: 4842 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 192.88.212.39 Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 2:07 pm: Infinity Bewarse Username: Infinity Post Number: 2253 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 2:05 pm: Taata! Badri Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Badri Post Number: 8195 Registered: 09-2004 Posted From: 130.243.43.217 Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 2:03 pm: infi mama inko sensitive issue kuda undhi...kani ikkada gelaka daluchukoledhu....ninnu oka roju offline savadobbuta aa issue meeda... Don_quixote Pilla Bewarse Username: Don_quixote Post Number: 76 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 203.200.95.130 Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 2:02 pm: tuntayya Infinity Bewarse Username: Infinity Post Number: 2252 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 2:00 pm: TCS gurinchi bhale unnaayigaa....monnevulo india oppices lo pood asalu bagodu ani seppaaru ornee.. ikkada pani gurinchi chepta vuntey tindi gurinchi enquirings aa? Infinity Bewarse Username: Infinity Post Number: 2251 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 1:59 pm: Ee MNCs nundi Onsite antu chese prayatnaalu, vache vaallu, settlements and vaallu padey kastalu.. ivaanni ramblings ni oka 1000 pages grandham gaa raayochu.. Unfortunately I am also sailing on the same ship... Don_quixote Pilla Bewarse Username: Don_quixote Post Number: 75 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 203.200.95.130 Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 1:59 pm: TCS gurinchi bhale unnaayigaa....monnevulo india oppices lo pood asalu bagodu ani seppaaru Truecolours Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Truecolours Post Number: 6609 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 12.153.145.6 Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 1:58 pm: >>>ok guys..there is nothing called USA TCS until last month..now we formed USA TCS.. mama idhi thappu anukuntaa.... naaku oka incident jarigindi TCS US gallathoo... weekend interview untundi ani maa employer cheppadu so urgent requirement emoo anukunna.... weekend call chesaru TCS ani chepparu.. saturday chesaru adhee from private number.... they gave one number and they asked me to call back.... nenu call back chesanu started asking all the stuff....almost 90 miniutes interview chesaru...malli maa employer ki cheptham annaru.... Monday maa employer cheppadu selected ani...full happies... PO raaledhu...employer waiting waiting calling them... eppudu call chesina ayupoyundi idhigooo adugooooo..... after 2 weeks sorry chepparu.... intha worest gaa untundi ikkada.... Infinity Bewarse Username: Infinity Post Number: 2250 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 1:55 pm: durga mama u are right... endukuley mama.. adi todukontey todukonnantha vundi..it stinks... leave it... mm maaya! Megamama Vooriki Bewarse Username: Megamama Post Number: 4841 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 192.88.212.39 Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 1:53 pm: durgioo Durga Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Durga Post Number: 6191 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 12.144.110.131 Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 1:52 pm: megamama apter a long time.. tunts, avvunu babai..nuvvu ceppindi nijame..even the consultants are not paid upto the mark.. 1 more ex, if a consultant (sap) is being paid 85-90, TCS pays u only the half ie 40-45/hr.. i have a friend, a very senior consul, but badly needs a job in a specified area only..the client here pays the per hr+ per diem(food n stuff)+ all expenses of the consul..these TCS guyz asked them to pay 45+10 $s more, saying that their consul is a local guy n doesnt need any exps..paapam maa vodu velladu lopaliki..akkada andarru(other firm's consultants) royalgaa bratikestunaru..maa vaadu bedavaadu ayyipoyadu.. Don_quixote Pilla Bewarse Username: Don_quixote Post Number: 69 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 203.200.95.130 Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 1:49 pm: http://in.rediff.com/money/2005/jul/11tcs1.htm Infinity Bewarse Username: Infinity Post Number: 2249 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 1:45 pm: ehe seppu...siggenduku Megamama Vooriki Bewarse Username: Megamama Post Number: 4840 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 192.88.212.39 Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 1:42 pm: ok guys..there is nothing called USA TCS until last month..now we formed USA TCS.. well if u r discussing about contractors in USA TCS..i have no idea BUMPPPPPPPP Infinity Bewarse Username: Infinity Post Number: 2248 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 1:41 pm: Durga mama: Sorry to hear that, thats outright stupid way of handling resourcing by HR. In India also it happens.. but as they pay in Rupee salaries so employee is taken in to the company and play with them until he placed into a project. But the impact on candidate is Less and few people dont worry much as long as u are paid. Here I can understand the situation mama.. until you are on project and PO is raised u never paid. They shld have recruited and did all those stuff with candidate. One example I have seen is: In India also while the prospective project is in its 2nd or 3rd round bidding stage itself they recruit and train/engage people to show them head count. Esp... for few stubborn clients like GE insist everything before itself.. so they go for final bidding... and everyone knows our Indian consulting practices... few extra ordinary things may occur.. project is lost. Next day they released from project to HR/Internal unit HR... Back to bench and update skill set .. cycle goes on. Durga Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Durga Post Number: 6184 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 12.144.110.131 Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 1:27 pm: abbo caana pedda posting vesanee Durga Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Durga Post Number: 6183 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 12.144.110.131 Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 1:26 pm: tunts, sorry lunch kelli vacha ippude..regds ur comments on my stmnt.. i may be lil harssh on this particular guy..have good rapport with other desi companies(mainly talking bout SAP area)wipro,satyam.. i got a wake call around 6.45 am in the morning..no courtesy sorry, goomorns, etc..jus straight attack..whats this whats that..blah blah..nijam cebbutuna babai..G lo kaalindi..comedy entante inta cesi manam select ayyamu..end client evvaru babu ante evvaru cepparu..proj eppudu, ponni ee vooru ante no answers..jus a one liner email to my company "put him on hold"..10 (2 weeks, taking the working days into account)alage vunanu..emi ledu..malli started googling.. sec: same TCS, same probs, this time me n another friend-2 positins. resumes were selected n shortlisted nothing happened.. 3: same tcs(by this time i already stated to my company never forward to TCS), but this time that guy said sorry n wanted my res very badly..everything got done, PO released, start date, end client details, city ..everything happies..last min"sorry the client couldnt meet our financial needs..." asalu reason emitante, veelu aa proj implementation ku bidding cesaru ante, veelaku raaledu, raadu kuuda.. adi babai..inni incidents jarigayii naaku TCS(US) tho Truecolours Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Truecolours Post Number: 6608 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 12.153.145.6 Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 1:12 pm: Infinity mayya durga babai seppindi US TCS gurinchi...not India TCS.. ikkada h1 meedha unnavallani contractors gaa theesukuntaru.... US loo TCS sala worest....Durga babai seppindi 100% correct.. Dimbaka Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Dimbaka Post Number: 9093 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 64.94.44.160 Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 1:12 pm: ehe seppu...siggenduku Infinity Bewarse Username: Infinity Post Number: 2246 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 1:06 pm: Vennela! I guess unless we know them it is hard to get those stats out. I know one hard fact of how these layoffs get to this number and whom they place in this category. but feared to post it here... Vennela Pilla Bewarse Username: Vennela Post Number: 68 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 66.237.36.130 Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 1:04 pm: >the only reason to lay off was very very poor performance even after giving 2 yrs of time to improve themselves.. Any idea on the background of these laid off emps? Like, I am curious to know if they hailed from CS or other branches. In the sense, if you have any statistics as to who formed the major part? Infinity Bewarse Username: Infinity Post Number: 2244 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 1:01 pm: So, could it be possible that major percentage of the the axed guys include these non CS graduates? Just curious. not really.. in most of the cases it is based on the rating of the individual in the business unit/group and showing up no intrest in the area he is working at would lead to this one. Few people dont like Mainframes and few open systems.. So they may end up as non performers. In my orgn, I have seen people joined from central govt. companies are most lazy guys on the earth. Megamama Vooriki Bewarse Username: Megamama Post Number: 4839 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 192.88.212.39 Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 12:59 pm: //So, could it be possible that major percentage of the the axed guys include these non CS graduates? Just curious// absolutely not..once entered in TCS there is no differentiation based on branch... the only reason to lay off was very very poor performance even after giving 2 yrs of time to improve themselves.. Vennela Pilla Bewarse Username: Vennela Post Number: 67 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 66.237.36.130 Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 12:57 pm: >>TCS is the only one takes mechanical and civil guys and trains them So, could it be possible that major percentage of the the axed guys include these non CS graduates? Just curious. Idiot Bewarse ke Bewarse! Username: Idiot Post Number: 25227 Registered: 09-2004 Posted From: 199.245.32.11 Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 12:57 pm: Megamama Vooriki Bewarse Username: Megamama Post Number: 4838 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 192.88.212.39 Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 12:57 pm: santi meeting ki eltunna..vachi nee sangathi septha Idiot Bewarse ke Bewarse! Username: Idiot Post Number: 25225 Registered: 09-2004 Posted From: 199.245.32.11 Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 12:54 pm: megamama Megamama Vooriki Bewarse Username: Megamama Post Number: 4837 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 192.88.212.39 Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 12:54 pm: //Freshers ki chances baga ichche ekaika pedda company TCS ani vinnane.// yes maama..Infy wipro and satyam takes max CSE ECE guys...TCS is the only one takes mechanical and civil guys and trains them ....even in times of sw recession TCS never layed off a single guy ..instead we had taken 3,000 guys in that year Dimbaka Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Dimbaka Post Number: 9089 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 64.94.44.160 Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 12:52 pm: Freshers ki chances baga ichche ekaika pedda company TCS ani vinnane. Megamama Vooriki Bewarse Username: Megamama Post Number: 4836 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 192.88.212.39 Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 12:50 pm: //ante aalla daggara saruku lekanaa..leka commitment lekanaa? going to join a job kada, andhuke maaku ee doubts.// pressi..as of today TCS is short of people to execute projects..adi matter....saruku undo ledo neeve deciding sesko.. Megamama Vooriki Bewarse Username: Megamama Post Number: 4835 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 192.88.212.39 Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 12:49 pm: Puthi maama am in Atlanta maama ...its been 45 days that am here and shall be here for another 2 yrs.. Naagaraja Kurra Bewarse Username: Naagaraja Post Number: 530 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 129.33.49.251 Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 12:48 pm: nee mail ID ledu gaa naa deggara ekkkada unnav ippudu?? Megamama Vooriki Bewarse Username: Megamama Post Number: 4834 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 192.88.212.39 Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 12:47 pm: puthi maama congratulations maama ...nee enkamma puthiga pelli pathrika kooda pampivvaledu.. Megamama Vooriki Bewarse Username: Megamama Post Number: 4833 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 192.88.212.39 Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 12:46 pm: //max anni support projs veela daggara.. durga maama..the mentality of Indian companies is just to grab the projects and earn revenues thats it... Indian biggies never bother about high end consulting work which is sheer waste of time and indian env is not suitable for that.. be like a roman in rome.. //proj chetilo vache lopale intrs modala pedtaru Maama..10,500 TCS guys out of total 43,000 are at onsite...this figure is enuf to prove how TCS grabs the projects and the way it executes.. well I agree that we does low end maintanance projs..but who the heck cares.. Prasanth Bewarse ke Bewarse! Username: Prasanth Post Number: 17066 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 203.199.213.194 Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 12:46 pm: >>the axed guys have given enuf chances to prove them selves and they have been kept under observation for 2 years before this decision is taken. >> ante aalla daggara saruku lekanaa..leka commitment lekanaa? going to join a job kada, andhuke maaku ee doubts. Infinity Bewarse Username: Infinity Post Number: 2240 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 12:44 pm: my post was informative.. mega mama Naagaraja Kurra Bewarse Username: Naagaraja Post Number: 528 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 129.33.49.251 Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 12:43 pm: megamama ga Megamama Vooriki Bewarse Username: Megamama Post Number: 4832 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 192.88.212.39 Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 12:43 pm: evaru ikkada TCS ni comment chestundi brothers? the axed guys have given enuf chances to prove them selves and they have been kept under observation for 2 years before this decision is taken. regarding the interview process ..yes its really tough buddies..but not really that difficult to get in.. well its bad what has happened but streamlining is necessary at some point of time... Infinity Bewarse Username: Infinity Post Number: 2239 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 12:22 pm: idi pedda boku company..interviews ayite torture pedtaru Nkgaalu..proj chetilo vache lopale intrs modala pedtaru..civariki adi raadu..max anni support projs veela daggara.. Mama... I disagree with your stmt mama... the basic modus operandi of any MNC is like that..We should anticipate that. Selection process is toughest becoz of huge competition in India... no matter what u do one u get into it. Projects vishayam lo: Client interviews and all blah is no one can avoid... becoz to get confidence from client.. one must go through this.. The biggest problem people face here is HR and PMs are not transparent.. and leaves the employee/candidate in confusion most of the times. And there are instances projects scrapped after everything is done, trained.. and about to start.. I have seen cases of dropping off in the volumes of 100 to 800 people in a single day from projects. support projects myth is not true: Every big MNC is heavily dependent on that area.. most of the large scale projects involve in support and incremental development and expansion. In few cases u see large scale development/migration with new customers/clients. I know Infy, Wipro, TCS and Satyam still control most of the Maintenance projects for all fortune companies. Bob Kurra Bewarse Username: Bob Post Number: 607 Registered: 03-2005 Posted From: 220.240.44.49 Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 12:11 pm: firings india lo kuda jaruguthunaya.. Infinity Bewarse Username: Infinity Post Number: 2237 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 12:09 pm: mari pani seyyakapothe theesesthaarugaa aa maaku teldu.. pani cheyyakunda vundataaniki reasons HR and Project Managers... Donga baadkav gaallu pani chese vaallaku emo kotha ways invent chesi.. hikes ivvaru paadu ivvaru.. Durga Desanike Pedda Bewarse Username: Durga Post Number: 6180 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 12.144.110.131 Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 12:04 pm: idi pedda boku company..interviews ayite torture pedtaru Nkgaalu..proj chetilo vache lopale intrs modala pedtaru..civariki adi raadu..max anni support projs veela daggara.. Don_quixote Pilla Bewarse Username: Don_quixote Post Number: 63 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 202.141.43.24 Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 11:56 am: mari pani seyyakapothe theesesthaarugaa Infinity Bewarse Username: Infinity Post Number: 2235 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 11:46 am: Now a days every MNC is trying to filter out Non Performers and screwing up salaries for damn reasons... TCS axes 1,000 non-performers in Apr-June '05 Suveen K Sinha in New Delhi | July 11, 2005 09:57 IST About 1,000 employees have left Tata Consultancy Services, India's largest software services company, in the first quarter of this financial year. This, according to sources in the company, is a result of the salary model based on the economic value-added that was rolled out two years ago. Those exiting, they maintain, are primarily the non-performers. The EVA model -- involving assessment, retraining and exit discussions -- moves on a two-year cycle and the last quarter was the first one when its impact kicked in. Under a new five-tier appraisal system, a large percentage of those who have left were classified as non-performers. They were given low rankings for the second year in a row and failed to show signs of improvement despite undergoing a mentorship programme. A company spokesperson said, "The EVA model has been implemented across TCS. We are witnessing immense value being delivered at the corporate level as a result of adopting this practice and TCSers are also seeing the benefit of the model," he added. But he refused to comment on the attrition, citing the quiet period in the run-up to the quarterly results. Sources in TCS, however, said it was a conscious move by the company to enhance result-orientation among its employees. According to the new EVA-based system, every employee's salary has a fixed and a variable component. The variable component of the pay takes into account the performance of the individual and the company. The EVA model goes beyond individual performance and places considerable onus on the organisation to ensure good rankings. On the flip side, if one is stuck with a team of which some members do not perform, then one is stuck with low ratings, which translate into low take-home pay.