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Infinity
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Username: Infinity
Post Number: 1869
Registered: 04-2005
Posted From: 192.127.94.7
| | Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 4:37 pm: |    |
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Kasakbabu
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Username: Kasakbabu
Post Number: 6682
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 202.141.43.24
| | Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 2:45 pm: | |
Screw the left wing mama, We need some hard reforms to get productivity and competititive spirit to face the global capatalization and extreme pressure in the global market
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries. - Churchill
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Infinity
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Username: Infinity
Post Number: 1867
Registered: 04-2005
Posted From: 192.127.94.7
| | Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 2:32 pm: | |
Emergency period brought out some of the best leaders almost from every nook and corner of teh country. It is a shame that such a weak person as Indira Gandhi who could not accept the verdict of a court of justice was back in power only after a brief period of time after making a mockery of the whole legal system and democratic process of largest democracy in the world.
I dont think Indira is weak.. She tried to utilize the weaknesses of the congress leadership and chamchagiri and tried her best to establish India on growth path.
The reason of not emerging another great leaders inside and outside the Congress was.. lack of communication and freedom to raise in the political system we had and now also.
Emergency might have brought best leaders of the country.. but whats the use tell me. Where they could lead us... Everyone choose one path with few ideals which did not help India much except few sucesses and they are minor. 
Point is, struggle brings the best in people which holds true during Independence struggle when selfless leaders emerged from every nook and corner of the country. It is sad that most of the good people in society hate to even consider politics as a way of life these days.
exctly. nice point |
Bandaruladdu
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Username: Bandaruladdu
Post Number: 28
Registered: 06-2005
Posted From: 192.175.182.25
| | Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 2:29 pm: | |
//maa odokadu munigings
problem enti mama recall ayithe? kotta car/dabbuls back ivvara? |
Infinity
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Username: Infinity
Post Number: 1866
Registered: 04-2005
Posted From: 192.127.94.7
| | Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 2:26 pm: | |
Ento ee madyana Chalam brain ki demand perigindi  |
Bandaruladdu
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Username: Bandaruladdu
Post Number: 25
Registered: 06-2005
Posted From: 192.175.182.25
| | Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 2:18 pm: | |
Another perspective :
Emergency period brought out some of the best leaders almost from every nook and corner of teh country. It is a shame that such a weak person as Indira Gandhi who could not accept the verdict of a court of justice was back in power only after a brief period of time after making a mockery of the whole legal system and democratic process of largest democracy in the world. Point is, struggle brings the best in people which holds true during Independence struggle when selfless leaders emerged from every nook and corner of the country. It is sad that most of the good people in society hate to even consider politics as a way of life these days. |
Infinity
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Username: Infinity
Post Number: 1862
Registered: 04-2005
Posted From: 192.127.94.7
| | Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 2:18 pm: | |
point noted... good views chalam mama! 
jam mama:
Now the question, is it possible to fire these many workers in the normal course of affairs? Absolutely not!! Because our left wing will never allow that to happen.
Screw the left wing mama, We need some hard reforms to get productivity and competititive spirit to face the global capatalization and extreme pressure in the global market. Our Gross exports dont even cross 2% in the world export business and we need lots of inflows of import in terms of Oil and other sectors. We should reach atleast 10 % by 2020 to be able to win in this competition with >1Bn population. I know we can achieve this kind of productivity only through hard measures. No matter what we are at currently now.
P.S.: U.S., the self-proclaimed guardians of democracy, could implement these laws, only after completely sabbotaging the growth of communist ideology here, through some draconian measures (there are lots of similarities between our Emergency regime and their's McCarthyism).
This statement looks absolutely correct to me. We can do this only when we are into a comfort zone where you achieved enough economic flexibility of sustaining the growth and development of the country through other sectors like US which is diversified into many ares likes Consumer, defense, IT and Engeneering, Services, Banking, Fanance and Little bit of manufacuring. |
Kasakbabu
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Username: Kasakbabu
Post Number: 6678
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 202.141.43.24
| | Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 2:18 pm: | |
ippude "Hazaaron Khwaishein Aisi" soosaaa |
Rowdynumber1
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Username: Rowdynumber1
Post Number: 10
Registered: 06-2005
Posted From: 68.72.143.140
| | Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 2:18 pm: | |
TUGHLAQ was just an example...two issues of the illustrated weekly of india did not come out, though one of its editors- kushwanth singh -supported emergency. |
Aparichitudu
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Username: Aparichitudu
Post Number: 179
Registered: 06-2005
Posted From: 209.37.138.50
| | Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 2:17 pm: | |
>>accent koni manchi pani chesaav, ninnane altima s ni nissan recall chesindanta, edo transmission problem .. maa odokadu munigings
accent kaadu..
SONATA  |
Chalam
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Username: Chalam
Post Number: 6342
Registered: 04-2004
Posted From: 69.228.253.113
| | Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 2:14 pm: | |
Doniyo,  , liposuction lantidedanna unte theesko
btw, accent koni manchi pani chesaav, ninnane altima s ni nissan recall chesindanta, edo transmission problem .. maa odokadu munigings |
Aparichitudu
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Username: Aparichitudu
Post Number: 178
Registered: 06-2005
Posted From: 209.37.138.50
| | Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 1:52 pm: | |
chalamannai..
post #6330,6331,6332 ki 5 stars gudda..
iragadeesav..
nee burra kaasta appu ivvu mama  |
Godfather
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Username: Godfather
Post Number: 23946
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 80.196.137.189
| | Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 1:35 pm: | |
ikkada politics susukune antha kalli evariki ledu.. anduku aa job nee US kee outsource chesaru..
sarangadhara ? |
Chalam
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Username: Chalam
Post Number: 6341
Registered: 04-2004
Posted From: 69.228.253.113
| | Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 1:34 pm: | |
>> evero cheppuko
evarantaav ? okayana puranala gurinchi chala cheppe vaadu , aayanaa ? naaku peru yaad ki raadam ledu |
Chalam
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Username: Chalam
Post Number: 6340
Registered: 04-2004
Posted From: 69.228.253.113
| | Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 1:32 pm: | |
>> celebrate enduku sesukuntaru
europe lo edahva sannasulu pilla kakkullaga kottukunte prethi sari vachi save chesindi US ye gaaa, anduku |
Badri
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Username: Badri
Post Number: 7810
Registered: 09-2004
Posted From: 130.243.43.217
| | Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 1:31 pm: | |
//nikkarlo
ettukoni snanam seyyaneeki tappinchi
chalam mama,
ittanti topics vachinappudu neeku oka vyakthi gurthuku ravali...evero cheppuko |
Dimbaka
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Username: Dimbaka
Post Number: 8848
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 64.94.44.166
| | Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 1:31 pm: | |
sorry mamalu, idi serious thread...ika nenu jump. |
Godfather
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Username: Godfather
Post Number: 23945
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 80.196.137.189
| | Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 1:31 pm: | |
chaduvute etti vastundi.. thought process vundala antadu.. |
Dimbaka
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Username: Dimbaka
Post Number: 8847
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 64.94.44.166
| | Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 1:30 pm: | |
>> nee comedy tho porilni etla padeyyocho <<
Eti nikkaru, snanam ante porilu padipotara? 
aithe iyyale maa office lo oka trail esta |
Jamadagni
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Username: Jamadagni
Post Number: 2158
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 68.72.143.140
| | Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 1:30 pm: | |
Analysing Emergency vis-a-vis the trade-off!
Flexible labor laws is one of the important factors that determine FDI inflows to a country. Companies generally hire more people only when they can fire them easily.
Indira understood this basic premise of the Anglo-Saxon business model long back and had the gumption to deny the workers their right to strike. Consequently, more than 5 lakh workers were fired. Moreover, she passed some legislations which, in effect, drastically reduced, the legacy costs of the companies---for instance, the minimum bonus was reduced from 8.33 percent to 4 percent--almost 50% reduction. Productivity, naturally, swelled and Corporate sector was extremely happy with these measures.
Now the question, is it possible to fire these many workers in the normal course of affairs? Absolutely not!! Because our left wing will never allow that to happen.
P.S.: U.S., the self-proclaimed guardians of democracy, could implement these laws, only after completely sabbotaging the growth of communist ideology here, through some draconian measures (there are lots of similarities between our Emergency regime and their's McCarthyism). |
Dimbaka
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Username: Dimbaka
Post Number: 8846
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 64.94.44.166
| | Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 1:29 pm: | |
Chalam mama...naa Q ki A ivvalaaa. eppudu edo okati
chaduvutu untava?  |
Chalam
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Username: Chalam
Post Number: 6339
Registered: 04-2004
Posted From: 69.228.253.113
| | Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 1:27 pm: | |
>> nikkarlo
ettukoni snanam seyyaneeki tappinchi
idigo induke anedi pellaipoyi ramudi vayyav gaani, nee comedy tho porilni etla padeyyocho neeku thelavatledu dimbsaaaaaaa
Badri, antha ledikkada ... inka vadileyy, neeku stars paddam thappa emi jaragadu |
Dimbaka
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Username: Dimbaka
Post Number: 8845
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 64.94.44.166
| | Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 1:26 pm: | |
Nee pirrale GF mama...eppudaina okka useful post sesava
nee 23K posts lo  |
Godfather
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Username: Godfather
Post Number: 23944
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 80.196.137.189
| | Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 1:26 pm: | |
miss ayipoyindi ani badha padutaru kani celebrate enduku sesukuntaru.. |
Dimbaka
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Username: Dimbaka
Post Number: 8844
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 64.94.44.166
| | Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 1:25 pm: | |
>> return lo nee comedy koncham icheyyi <<
thokkalo comedy enduku panikostadi mama nikkarlo
ettukoni snanam seyyaneeki tappinchi 
Nee skills neeku ettaa abbaayo seppu, eppudu edo okadi
saduvutoo untava? |
Godfather
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Username: Godfather
Post Number: 23943
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 80.196.137.189
| | Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 1:24 pm: | |
Dimbsu niku partner dorikadu.. sellam tanani tanu arpinchukunadu.. |
Chalam
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Username: Chalam
Post Number: 6338
Registered: 04-2004
Posted From: 69.228.253.113
| | Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 1:23 pm: | |
inthaki Europe lo kooda July 4th celebrate seskuntaara ? |
Badri
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Username: Badri
Post Number: 7807
Registered: 09-2004
Posted From: 130.243.43.217
| | Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 1:23 pm: | |
avva 3 single stars esara naaku...anta boothu emi undhi andulo |
Badri
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Username: Badri
Post Number: 7806
Registered: 09-2004
Posted From: 130.243.43.217
| | Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 1:22 pm: | |
GF mama 
maharshi ki appudu RSS lo active ga unnappudu edanna post iste poyyedhi...aa burra India ki paniki vachedhi |
Chalam
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Username: Chalam
Post Number: 6337
Registered: 04-2004
Posted From: 69.228.253.113
| | Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 1:22 pm: | |
Badriyo - oorike kidding le
Dimbs mama, motham theesko danitho paatu body lo fat free, free, free - return lo nee comedy koncham icheyyi |
Dimbaka
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Username: Dimbaka
Post Number: 8843
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 64.94.44.166
| | Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 1:21 pm: | |
Badri mama...bhale cover sesav kada kiki  |
Godfather
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Username: Godfather
Post Number: 23941
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 80.196.137.189
| | Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 1:21 pm: | |
ikkada vunnolidi midi midi gnanam.. inka ninu peeku tinaru ante.. nidi!!  |
Badri
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Username: Badri
Post Number: 7804
Registered: 09-2004
Posted From: 130.243.43.217
| | Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 1:19 pm: | |
//linkulu ille, seppindi nammavaaa ?
maharshi,
neevu cheppindhi nammakapovatama...never....kakpothe naa midi midi gnanam tho malli edi anna question esanu anuko rabandulu laga nannu peekoni tintaru...anduke link adiganu |
Dimbaka
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Username: Dimbaka
Post Number: 8842
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 64.94.44.166
| | Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 1:15 pm: | |
Chalam mama, nee brain koncham naku appu ivvava...plz  |
Chalam
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Username: Chalam
Post Number: 6334
Registered: 04-2004
Posted From: 69.228.253.113
| | Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 1:06 pm: | |
linkulu ille, seppindi nammavaaa ? scanned proofs kavalnaa ? |
Godfather
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Username: Godfather
Post Number: 23938
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 80.196.137.189
| | Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 1:06 pm: | |
badrioo.. oka idea kosam..
http://newswww.bbc.net.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/32 27709.stm |
Badri
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Username: Badri
Post Number: 7799
Registered: 09-2004
Posted From: 130.243.43.217
| | Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 12:43 pm: | |
emo maharshi naaku asalu idea ledhu...dani related articles emi anna unnaya... |
Chalam
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Username: Chalam
Post Number: 6332
Registered: 04-2004
Posted From: 69.107.143.33
| | Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 12:25 pm: | |
Badri, Paki-satan ... Bhutto gaadi power digadam and Zia-ul-haq rise aa time lone aindi akkada |
Badri
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Username: Badri
Post Number: 7794
Registered: 09-2004
Posted From: 130.243.43.217
| | Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 12:06 pm: | |
//remember that the other product of 1947 next door was fast slding into dictatorship by then and we fought back. //
maharshi,
konchem detailed ga cheppava...etu side velutundhi antavu dictatorship? |
Godfather
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Username: Godfather
Post Number: 23922
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 80.196.137.189
| | Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 11:56 am: | |
//You can blame the Gandhi family for all their power greed but not their committment to the country
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Chalam
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Username: Chalam
Post Number: 6331
Registered: 04-2004
Posted From: 69.107.143.33
| | Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 11:50 am: | |
Recall that we had an expensive war in 1971 and we developed the super power of the world US into our enemy after the war. and wold they keep quiet for reversing their diktat not to attack east pakistan ? I would say NO and CIA was fast getting into the country by then. I know that people ascribe this as Indira gandhi's 'foreign hand' idea but I dont think it was wrong. there were strong rumors in the country that by 1975 with atrocious unemployment figures, no means of earning for many politicans themselves, CIA had stepped in a big way. and then the court decision happened and I think IG used the opportunity to get back at the US in the only way she saw fit. You can blame the Gandhi family for all their power greed but not their committment to the country IMO. If this theory is far fetched, consider that Morarrji desai was a renowned US spy , Seymour Hersh had stated as much in his articles of the period. If anyone's wonderingf who this guy is, he is the world's BEST investigative journalist. also broke the abu ghraib trail and several ISI-taleban stories.
It was in this melee that emeergency got imposed and as someone said, things always fgo smoothly in the first phase and then struggulllll starts.
its all well known history by now. |
Chalam
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Username: Chalam
Post Number: 6330
Registered: 04-2004
Posted From: 69.107.143.33
| | Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 11:43 am: | |
IBM,
when I said India won, there's a deep thought process there. Let me elucidate. Now, when India and Pakistan formed in 1947, many western nations had sort of written off India. a nation with infinite dialects and varied cultures was not expected to stay together for any period of time. that we could stay together is a testament to some awesome vision of Nehru and the founding fathers of the Indian constitution. sometime later about that. Now that was one big reason US supported pak in the 65 war though they were on good term s wiht us during the kennedy admin and the PL-480 program etc.
So when Emergency was imposed, it was seen as the last straw for an INDIA UNITED. we were expected to rapidly degenrate into several piddly Hindu nations fighting at the seams. and THAT did not happen. the PUBLIC of India universally sought democracy back and kicked Indira Gandhi OUT. the dya that happened was the litmus test for India's committment to democracy. the way several news papers fought the emergency ( and no, not just THUGLAQ) but even Indina express. Goenka used to protest by just sending in blank white papers to households. there were times when he would paint the whole front page BLACK to protest against the censorship. It was like a phoenix rising from the ashes and for me, it was a golden day of metamorphjosis of Indian democracy. remember that the other product of 1947 next door was fast slding into dictatorship by then and we fought back. and hence IMO, India WON stupendously.
I hear about the laloos and mulayams. these were JP's smartest protege but what the yahve turned into for political opportunism is downright pits. and thats the reason I say every asshole who used JP to satiate their power needs will one day grovel at tthe gates of hell. no two ways.
reasons for emergency next |
Ibmast
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Username: Ibmast
Post Number: 207
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 136.8.152.13
| | Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 5:11 am: | |
Renowned philosopher J Krishnamurthy was in america/europe during the emergency and was to travel to india to deliver a series of lectures. Pupul jayakar who was a close associate of Jk had to seek an 'indirect permission' from her close friend cos some of JKs planned speeches focussed on Freedom in society. Mrs gandhi very graciously gave the go ahead. |
Ibmast
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Post Number: 206
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 136.8.152.13
| | Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 5:01 am: | |
Chalam, I dont think India won. The emergency had far reaching consequences the price of which the nation is paying today -( consequences before which fringe benefits like trains running on time, corruption at an all time low appear
inconsequential). JPs movement gave rise to certain leaders who pose a grave threat to the nations social fabric today..
laloo,mulayam, paswan, nitish kumar, sushil modi are all products of the Emergency... Sanjays goon culture saw the beginning of the goondafication of Indian politics. |
Ibmast
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Post Number: 205
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Posted From: 136.8.152.13
| | Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 4:59 am: | |
oka arm-chair political scientist ga chooste emergency lo chaala benefits kanapadochu..The emergency was not just about sacrificing 'civil liberites'..it was about giving up the right to live with dignity..
Right from the pains of the partition to the excesses of the emergency to cross border terrorism it is the cow-belt that has always borne the brunt of the nations political upheavals. talk to them and you will realise that when a goon uses his power as the prime ministers son and gets young men of your family forcibly sterilised the last thing to cross peoples mind is that corruption is at an all time low. When yuo see the last of the gandhian tribe trying to lead a non-violent satyagrah kind of movement thrown into jail for being a threat to 'internal security' you give a •••• if the dictatorship is leading us to economic growth.The motives behind the emergency am sure there are many most of which lead to the inherent personality of the leader who
declared it - charismatic, powerful to the extent of making eunuchs of her spineless cronies..yet hopelessly insecure...
Pupul jayakar in the biography of her close friend writes how 'Indu dear' had turned a nervous wreck at that time...all her
letters spoke of how the opposition was practising witchcraft , conspiring to poison her food, get her grand children killed
etc... |
Prasanth
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Posted From: 203.199.213.194
| | Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 4:01 am: | |
emergency appudu, maa naanna, venkayya naidu tenalilo maa intlo undipoyaaru..bayataku vellakundaa.. |
Infinity
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Post Number: 1821
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Posted From: 192.127.94.7
| | Posted on Thursday, June 30, 2005 - 5:41 pm: | |
Nee opinion oka post veyyochu gaa Chalam |
Chalam
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Post Number: 6329
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Posted From: 69.228.253.113
| | Posted on Thursday, June 30, 2005 - 5:35 pm: | |
>> The reason for which the emergency was declared is pretty wrong,
It's not as plain and obvious mama, there r 1000 reasons for this infamous episode in the country's history. In the end, India won |
Chalam
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Posted From: 69.228.253.113
| | Posted on Thursday, June 30, 2005 - 5:22 pm: | |
Indira Gandhi Amar Rahe !!!!! |
Infinity
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| | Posted on Thursday, June 30, 2005 - 12:49 pm: | |
Excellent Post Rowdy1 mama.
On the other hand, Developing countries that embrace democracy, will continue to limp in their pursuit of growth objectives as their citizenry are not ready to trade-off civil liberties for economic well being. Their citizens are free to do whatever they want as long as it does not harm the other's interests, Minorities enjoy special potection in some countries as they function WITHOUT a Uniform Civil Code, many seperate their legislative, executive and judicial brances etc etc etc. This is the other end of the spectrum.
Each has its own plus and minus points. The success mantra lies in choosing a point between these two ends, identifying which is not my Job. Would I have joined the 'total revolution' then? Probably yes, as it is difficult to imagine a life being dictated by others.
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Eeidlagolayenti
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Posted From: 65.115.93.126
| | Posted on Thursday, June 30, 2005 - 12:20 pm: | |
good one Rowdynumber1..
The reason for which the emergency was declared is pretty wrong,
but we never know, Indira might have felt that the charan singh and gang are pretty bad to win an election(which proved to be true incase of laloo, mulayam etc guys).
she might have felt if they win, India will lose a lot(which turned out to be true with janatha gove in 1977..). |
Gaali
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Posted From: 199.26.230.102
| | Posted on Thursday, June 30, 2005 - 11:58 am: | |
Jammu mama, nice post. |
Rowdynumber1
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| | Posted on Thursday, June 30, 2005 - 11:13 am: | |
The Hindu laanti paperseee reported speech nunchi quotes raasee stage kocchindhanta aaa timelo. Ekkuva Congress and ADMK (AIADMK was initially known as ADMK-he changed the name to All India Annaa Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam only after a perceived threat that Indira is going to ban all the regional parties) leaders ni quote cheeseedhanta. Alaanti times loo THUGHLAQ anee paper displayed the temerity and expressed its dissent.
Reason behind the decision: The opposition parties moved court challenging Indira's misuse of power in the 1971 elections. The Allahabad highcourt found her guilty of the charges and banned her from contesting elections for the next 6 years. Then, she invoked an article in the constitution that grants extra-constitutional powers to the P.M. during the times of external attack(s) or internal dangers.
Impact: It was more pronounced in the Northern states. Southern people were indifferent to it as they were equally fed up with the incumbent regional parties like the DMK.
Results: From my readings, I understand that Emergency worked well initially but resulted in unintended consequences when she extended it to further neutralize the opposition. Ironically, she fared well in states like Gujarath where Emergency was enforced in true spirit than in others where it was not.
The trade-off between Growth and Freedom:
Emergency rule in India forms an excellent case study for the persistent debate between Growth and Freedom.
Central planning and dictators with a vision can bring about far reaching changes in any country, China being the latest case in point. (From a net importer of Apples it is now the World's largest exporter, all in 15 years flat! Why complain?) During Emergency, India also made good progress initially-Corruption was at an all time low (underscore the word initially). Work was done faster in Govt.offices, slums were cleared to beautify cities (there is an allegation that Sanjay cleared one to make one of his concubines happy, as she held large commercial real estates nearby), birth rates faltered. This is one end of the spectrum.
On the other hand, Developing countries that embrace democracy, will continue to limp in their pursuit of growth objectives as their citizenry are not ready to trade-off civil liberties for economic well being. Their citizens are free to do whatever they want as long as it does not harm the other's interests, Minorities enjoy special potection in some countries as they function WITHOUT a Uniform Civil Code, many seperate their legislative, executive and judicial brances etc etc etc. This is the other end of the spectrum.
Each has its own plus and minus points. The success mantra lies in choosing a point between these two ends, identifying which is not my Job. Would I have joined the 'total revolution' then? Probably yes, as it is difficult to imagine a life being dictated by others. |
Gaali
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Meeku yeppudaina bore kodithe www.outlookindia.com ki velli articles chadavandi. Baaguntaayi. |
Infinity
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Hmmm.. gone through it.
Damn it. 
whts the Indira's version? any idea |
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>>Don't know what is the reason, is the idelogy of the congress has changed
or change of congress leadership...
Congress idealogy remained more or less the same.
But COmmunists and Socialists (Laloo, Mulayam etc) joined hands with COngress to fight with bigger evil - communalists |
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flight lo elthunte** |
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evarainaa "we, the nation" chadivaaraa?
daantlo Palkhivala chepthaadu......emergency, indira death gurinchi oka saadhuvu eeeyanaki flight lo cheppaadanta |
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tuntio.. vessanu ipudue clear gaa vunda ? |
Godfather
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maa father Central secratariat loo work chese varu anta appudu.. emergency apudu erra janda patuku tirugute suspend chesaru anta..
sachinolu lekapote inchaka Delhi lo perigevadini nenu.. |
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Ee emergency meeda TC annatlu.. i too dont have any idea.. some one throw some light pls |
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zee tv lo sarrkar ani oka serila isthunnadu its totally based on the gandhis
sanjay gandhi gaadivi chaala kathalu unnaai
his death is still a source of controversy, conspiracy theorists claim it could have been the doing of his own mother |
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Naaku Peddaga theliyadhu nenu appatiki inka puuttaledhu kuda...
But naa view septhanu mama...
>>>Most people consider the Emergency the darkest period in the
history of independent India.
The most prominent leaders Charan Singh, Laloo Prasad, Jaipal reddy,
Mulayam singh etc who fought against emergency
and congress party are now with congress.
Leaders are good now but the people who fought for them and the people
who died for them and the families who lost their family members for them
has to explain their experiences...
Don't know what is the reason, is the idelogy of the congress has changed
or change of congress leadership...
There was no media expcept the govt sponsored at that time so no body
knows the complete truth about the emergency...
Indira and congress has their own reasons for the emergency as Indian republic
already fought 3 wars within 25 years of its Independence and corruption.
population and unemployment rate has grown to uncontrolled rate..
Maybe Indira did right according to her but people opposed her and revolted
against her so she lost the election and even her seat...
But After 30 years now the young generation
who are in their 20's and 30's don't know what happened
exactly at that time and they don't have time to know the things which is
the god sign for the country. |
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Idiot mama..
 |
Aparichitudu
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Sanjay Gandhi played an important role during her rule...
did he hold any position in the party..??
or did he just use her power??
Youth congress ani tarvaata start chesada? |
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don mama monna article chadivi taadu veddam anukunna work lo padi marchipoyaanu. thread vesinanduku |
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TC, Chalam,  |
Gaali
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One of the reasons was to protect her son Sanjay Gandhi.
Read Pupul Jayakar's book on Indira Gandhi. Good bio of Indira. Though Pupul was a close friend of Indira, she did reveal her weaknesses. |
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http://specials.rediff.com/news/2005/jun/27sld.htm
Most people consider the Emergency the darkest period in the history of independent India. The period is said to be a blot on democracy.
Indira's opponents had long made allegations that her party had indulged in electoral malpractices to win the 1971 elections.
In June 1975, the Allahabad high court found her guilty of electoral fraud and ordered her to be removed from her seat in Parliament and banned from running for elections for an additional six years.
Rather than face the charges, on June 26, 1975, Indira declared a state of Emergency. With this act, she brought democracy 'to a grinding halt'.
Invoking Article 352 of the Constitution, she granted herself extraordinary powers and launched a massive crackdown on civil liberties and political opposition.
In the 19 months of Indira's Emergency rule, thousands were jailed and the freedom of the press was curbed.
comments..and thoughts welcome..
manam politics lo chaala weak..so peddalu meeru discuss cheste telusukundam ani..
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