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Hustler
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Username: Hustler
Post Number: 140
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 138.87.66.98
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2004 - 1:34 pm: |    |
I found this interesting article one of the blogs i read .Thought of sharing with you guys. The article is about coming of aryans into ancient india
This part of Indian History is highly debated. Some believe Aryans came in from central asia, invaded and supressed the local 'daravidian' inhibitants. Others believe Aryans are not outsiders, but, "Indians" themselves. There was never an "Aryan invasion". This is BIG issue, for this was probably the beginings of caste system, the "white skinned" aryans claiming to be superior to the "dark skinned" darvidian (indigenous people). Indian community has been so racist down the ages, that even today, even among the educated, there exists a bias towards the fairer skin. Dark skin is still looked down at and fair considered better!
Aryans were probably made nomads(1), pushed from their homes in central asia (by famine/desease?). Though nomads, they were more advanced, equipped with horse drawn chariots (first ever) they drove in to established civilisations in all directions, ending them. The Aryans were probably the ancestors of the Greeks, Celts, Teutons and Hitties. The Hitties settled in present Turkey and soon brought an end to the kingdom of Sumer, Mesopotamia. Other Aryan bands moved east, into India. The people of Indus were hardly the warring kind and would have been easily overrun
The Aryans brought with them new religion and language. The Aryans spoke a groups of languages now called 'Indo-European'. Sanskrit is one of them. Studies show Sanskrit has similar characteristics to other Indo-european languages like Latin, Greek and German (taken to Europe by other Aryan tribes). Language has been the biggest story teller for this era. Not excavations but the study of languages, by likes of Max Muller, has helped us trace the origins and routes taken by ancestors of leading civilizations.
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Sarangadhara
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Username: Sarangadhara
Post Number: 127
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 149.169.170.17
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 16, 2004 - 3:10 pm: | |
nice to see you posting here too deepblue mama , ty for those words , any other links and points people are welcome to post here and discuss , koncham pani vundi , will be back ,any other posts would reply then
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Deepblue
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Username: Deepblue
Post Number: 1255
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 24.1.165.188
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 16, 2004 - 3:01 pm: | |
i beg to differ
aryan has come from ALLU ARAVIND.
his son is ARYA
it is a superhit dancinglu cinema.
see ARYA, know the menaing os aryan, also shahrukh khan's son is another aryan,
i have proofs.
mail me at deepblue_sea75@yahoo.com for further info
just kidding guys, great posts sarang mama |
Sarangadhara
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Username: Sarangadhara
Post Number: 126
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 149.169.170.17
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 16, 2004 - 2:48 pm: | |
honeymist garu , happy to know you found the info useful , mari anta telisina vadini kuda kadu , just trying to share a bit of what i know .
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Chiru007
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Username: Chiru007
Post Number: 52
Registered: 05-2004
Posted From: 12.42.51.27
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 16, 2004 - 2:47 pm: | |
Asalu BJP Govt. vunnappude mana History Books marchunte Baavundedi. Ippudu ee Congii Govt asalu pattinchukodu.
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Honeymist
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Username: Honeymist
Post Number: 37
Registered: 04-2004
Posted From: 209.170.192.116
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 16, 2004 - 2:36 pm: | |
Sarangadhara garu, excellent posts by you. Your knowledge in various fields is amazing. Thanks for providing good information.  |
Sarangadhara
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Username: Sarangadhara
Post Number: 125
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 149.169.170.17
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 16, 2004 - 2:24 pm: | |
no mention gaali mama , dara garu nice to know that you agree on that.
ignore my post 118 where i thought you did not agree .
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Dara
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Username: Dara
Post Number: 470
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 207.203.156.105
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 16, 2004 - 2:21 pm: | |
sarangadhara i agree with your post 111. even i knew the same thing from books.
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Gaali
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Username: Gaali
Post Number: 2916
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 199.26.230.102
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 16, 2004 - 2:20 pm: | |
WOW! Great info mama. I'll read through in depth. Finally you solved a puzzle for me. Thanks.
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Sarangadhara
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Username: Sarangadhara
Post Number: 124
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 149.169.170.17
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 16, 2004 - 2:19 pm: | |
also note this not by indian researchers , independent american researchers who are doing it .}
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Sarangadhara
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Username: Sarangadhara
Post Number: 123
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 149.169.170.17
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 16, 2004 - 2:19 pm: | |
check this link to on red indian god kokopelli (kubera in india ) khepera in ancient egypt
http://www.viewzone.com/kokopeli.html
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Sarangadhara
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Username: Sarangadhara
Post Number: 122
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 149.169.170.17
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 16, 2004 - 2:18 pm: | |
http://www.viewzone.com/ancientsanskrit.htm
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Sarangadhara
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Username: Sarangadhara
Post Number: 121
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 149.169.170.17
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 16, 2004 - 2:17 pm: | |
gaali mama previous posts nuvvu chooste , aa migration theory ardham avutundi .
long back ancient times lo floods occur ayinappudu in norhtern india way back in the time of sindhu saraswati civilizations , mana valle valasa vaccharu.
veelani mana purannalo nagas ani pilustaru , bhoo bhaganiki atu vaipu vuntaru ani cheppe vallu.
RED INDIANS ALMOST ANNI GODS SIMILAR TO HINDU PANTHEONS.
aa temples kuda structure chala similar ,valla customs kuda similar ,nature worshipping.
anniti kante most important , vishnu ki similar god , he is blue sitting on a great eagle .
QUETZALCOATL
anta enduku ee link choodu mama
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Gaali
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Username: Gaali
Post Number: 2915
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 199.26.230.102
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 16, 2004 - 2:13 pm: | |
Amar Gypsies gurinchi National Geographic lo manchi articles vachaayi. Yes their origin is from ancient India.
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Gaali
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Username: Gaali
Post Number: 2914
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 199.26.230.102
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 16, 2004 - 2:12 pm: | |
>>avunu chalam garu , cherokees ki hindu lineage vundi ani researchers konta mandi prove chesaru.
Sarangadhara mama and Chalam mama
Mee posts choosthunte, I recollected my trip to the Grand Canyon. Akkada Canyon lo (actually on high hiltops), they have (if I recollect right) Shiva and Vishnu temples. Now those could not have been constructed by Hindus from India for sure.
They are ancient temples. If any of you know more on this plz post here.
Prema, Doma yenti bey Sendalamgaa? |
Sarangadhara
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Username: Sarangadhara
Post Number: 118
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 149.169.170.17
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 16, 2004 - 2:00 pm: | |
avunu chalam garu , cherokees ki hindu lineage vundi ani researchers konta mandi prove chesaru.
yes macalauy and british govt chesina kutra gurinchi tappakunda discuss cheyyochu , ela oka nation pride ni destroy chesaru annadi.
no ane vallaki manavi , meeru no ante kanisam mee points cheppandi , just i dont think so posts cheyyakandi.
always welcome for an open discussion , please do provide me anti points if you have some.
ee tadu ni matram kelakakandi , kavalante mee kosam thousands of other threads vunnayi }
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Dara
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Username: Dara
Post Number: 429
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 207.203.156.105
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 10:57 pm: | |
don`t think so
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Billa_pichodu
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Username: Billa_pichodu
Post Number: 299
Registered: 04-2004
Posted From: 195.47.45.58
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 9:21 pm: | |
i second you |
Amar
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Username: Amar
Post Number: 133
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 24.13.70.185
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 9:16 pm: | |
redi indians are basically people who have migrated from russia(china border) through alaska into america.
thats the reason they have a unique features of orientals and caucisians.
in europe there are a sect of people called Gypsies who are nothing but from subcontinent. the term gypsie is formed from Egypt, europeans assumed they came from east side or from egypt side.
but these are the only people who dont have any country to fall back as a originators and are confused people about their origins and neither of country defends them and its really bad. |
Brad
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Username: Brad
Post Number: 2694
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 204.99.118.9
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 6:58 pm: | |
yem chestunna, inkaa ikkade vunnavu kadaa!!!
ippudu samma gaa vundaa?? |
Billa_pichodu
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Username: Billa_pichodu
Post Number: 252
Registered: 04-2004
Posted From: 195.47.45.58
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 6:58 pm: | |
paina choostaa kinda chestaa. ade naaku saradaa. |
Brad
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Username: Brad
Post Number: 2690
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 204.99.118.9
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 6:55 pm: | |
yentha sepoo paine chooste yelaaga?? loka kalyanam kosam kinda kooda choodaali
ippudu samma gaa vundaa?? |
Billa_pichodu
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Username: Billa_pichodu
Post Number: 249
Registered: 04-2004
Posted From: 195.47.45.58
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 6:54 pm: | |
adento paina unna taadu baaga ishtam gaa untaayi. |
Brad
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Username: Brad
Post Number: 2683
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 204.99.118.9
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 6:50 pm: | |
malli yenduku ee kelukudu?? inko taadu choosu kovachhu kadaa!!!
ippudu samma gaa vundaa?? |
Billa_pichodu
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Username: Billa_pichodu
Post Number: 232
Registered: 04-2004
Posted From: 195.47.45.58
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 6:33 pm: | |
sare, kelakanu le. |
Brad
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Username: Brad
Post Number: 2663
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 204.99.118.9
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 6:12 pm: | |
ee thread ni matram kelakodde!!!
ippudu samma gaa vundaa?? |
Chalam
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Username: Chalam
Post Number: 379
Registered: 04-2004
Posted From: 148.87.1.170
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 6:09 pm: | |
cherokees have Hindu lineage ani evaro okathanu prove chesadu. Sdhara, you provide lot of points to rebut aryan theory and that's commendable. More than that, I think we should focus on Macaulay and Max muellers' ideas of why such a theory was even put in place and how mental subjugation of a billion people was achieved. |
Godfather
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Username: Godfather
Post Number: 3491
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 62.90.177.204
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 5:12 pm: | |
sarangadhara chala manchi posts chesaru andi!! nenu ivala koncham panilo vundi contribute cheyalekapoya repu discuss chedam
naku vitilo koni doubts & views vunayi
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Sarangadhara
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Username: Sarangadhara
Post Number: 115
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 149.169.170.10
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 4:24 pm: | |
gf garu pai posts choodandi , meetavi tarvata postutanu koncham pani vundi
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Sarangadhara
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Username: Sarangadhara
Post Number: 114
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 149.169.170.10
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 4:22 pm: | |
original continental theory telisina vallaki
science tells us once upon a time all the continents were joined together, later they drifted
alage india drift ayyi velli china ki tagili himalays form ayyayi
anduke india ki ancient name JAMBU DWEEPA(not the word island).
DNA research shows the first human being in africa or central european plains , at a time when all were joined together.
aa time lo world mottam lo okate religion or way of life vundedi , that is one of worship of nature in the from of god (called pagan religions).
ancient india lo nature worship thru tantra was more prominent.
tarvata vacchinadi ,a system of worship thru vedas properly laid down rules.
the civilizations across sindu and saraswati rivers.
then occured the great floods , destruction of the cities
people migrating to the plains of afghanistan(gandhara)
people moving on to the isreal , mesopotamia , egypt.
one group moving to americas(the red indians)
the red indians were known as the nagas in the indian culture.
EVEN THE RED INDIANS HAVE A GOD NAMED QUETZALCOATL WHO IS BLUE AND SEATED ON EAGLE.
ala chala gods , similar to vishnu and hindu gods.
lingusitically kuda chala same.
ila many similirities for common culutre all over world
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Chiru007
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Username: Chiru007
Post Number: 51
Registered: 05-2004
Posted From: 12.42.51.28
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 3:36 pm: | |
Try the search "The myth of Aryan Invasion" in yahoo. There are some interesting findings over there. |
Sarangadhara
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Username: Sarangadhara
Post Number: 113
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 149.169.170.10
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 3:34 pm: | |
vatiki answers next post koncham long lo istanu
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Sarangadhara
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Username: Sarangadhara
Post Number: 112
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 149.169.170.10
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 3:23 pm: | |
mari asalu nijam enti
1.asalu hinduism ki backdrop enti , asalu first india lo vedic gods worship vunda leka vere gods aa
2. how do we give modern dna evidence for the cause of birth theories(ippudu oldest man africa lo vunde vadu ani proof vacchindi)
3.how do we explain this theory in relation to continents moving forward and formation of india (jambu dweepa)
note the word jambu dweepa island , mari india island kadu kada
appatlo mari india shape ne veru}
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Deyyam
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Username: Deyyam
Post Number: 455
Registered: 06-2004
Posted From: 157.182.82.243
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 3:22 pm: | |
>>Aryans evaru
Aankhon mein tera hi chehra
Dhadkan mein tere hi yaadien ,
karthi hai deewana
Aa paata vinnaru kada.. Aa band vaale ARYANS
 Just kidding
Sanditlo sademiya, roju tinta semiya |
Sarangadhara
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Username: Sarangadhara
Post Number: 111
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 149.169.170.10
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 3:21 pm: | |
references :The Invasion That Never Was - By Michel Danino and Sujata Nahar
Return of the Aryans - By Bhagwan S Gidwani - Book reviewed by Prof. Jagjit Mirchand
MARI WHY THIS THEORY
1.the main reason was wherever the britishers went they subjugated the people and also did conversions by the church.
THE HINDUS WERE ONE SUCH RACE WHO WERE SO STRONG THEY DID NOT CONVERT EASILY , TO DESTROY ANY RACE WE SHOULD FIRST KILL THEIR PRIDE(SENSE OF PRIDE IN CULTURE)
so ee idea to
MEERU KUDA EDO DESHAM NUNCHI VACCHINA VALLU , YOU DO NOT BELONG TO INDIA , EE MATHAM KUDA MEEDI KADU ,SO MEMU KUDA EMI TAPPU CHEYYALEDU
anna false sense ni teesuku vacchi , neo british servants ni tayara chesaru.
THIS IS THE THEORY THAT CAUSED THE KILLING OF JEWS BY HITLER TOO SINCE HE BELEIVE IN ARYAN SUPREMACY
very sad that such purposeful misinterpretation has occured}
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Sarangadhara
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Username: Sarangadhara
Post Number: 110
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 149.169.170.10
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 3:18 pm: | |
points against the aryan theory
nijanga vallu nomads ayyi edo central asia lo vundi vunte
1.how can one explain the level of knowledge in the rig veda about the exact position of planets back in the days without even telescopes
2.how can one explain the advanced water system of cities like harappa
3.how can one explain the weaponry systems of the cities
ila okati kadu chala points
ivi anni choosi modern nationalistic and right thinking historians "the invasion that never was " ane book roopam lo chala truths bayataki teccharu.
now many historians question the flawed aryan theory
THEN WHY WAS THIS THEORY USED}
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Sarangadhara
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Username: Sarangadhara
Post Number: 109
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 149.169.170.10
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 3:15 pm: | |
The first point to note is that the idea of the Aryans as foreigners who invaded India and destroyed the existing Harappan Civilization is a modern European invention; it receives no support whatsoever from Indian records - literary or archaeological.
The same is true of the notion of the Aryans as a race; it finds no support in Indian literature or tradition. (And genetics demolishes it.) The word 'Arya' in Sanskrit means noble and never a race. In fact, the authoritative Sanskrit lexicon (c. 450 AD), the famous Amarakosha gives the following definition:
mahakula kulinarya sabhya sajjana sadhavah .
An Arya is one who hails from a noble family, of gentle behavior and demeanor, good-natured and of righteous conduct. And the great epic Ramayana has a singularly eloquent expression describing Rama as:
arya sarva samascaiva sadaiva priyadarsanah - Arya, who worked for the equality of all and was dear to everyone . The Rig Veda also uses the word Arya something like thirty six times, but never to mean a race. The nearest to a definition that one can find in the Rigveda is probably:
praja arya jyotiragrah ...
Children of Arya are led by light - Rig Veda, VII. 33.17.
Thus, the modern notion of an Aryan-Dravidian racial divide is contradicted by ancient records. We have it on the authority of Manu that the Dravidians were also part of the Aryan fold. Interestingly, so were the Chinese. Race never had anything to do with it until the Europeans adopted the ancient word to give expression to their nationalistic and other aspirations.
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Honeymist
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Post Number: 32
Registered: 04-2004
Posted From: 209.170.192.116
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 12:50 pm: | |
Here is an interesting link in this connection:
http://www.swamishyam.org/everyguide-aryancivi.htm l |
Brad
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Username: Brad
Post Number: 2592
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 204.99.118.9
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 12:28 pm: | |
GF mama, sarangadhara gaaru raani anni clarify ayipotaayi
ippudu samma gaa vundaa?? |
Godfather
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Username: Godfather
Post Number: 3473
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 62.90.177.204
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 7:33 am: | |
// ekkada vunaru , evaru cheparu
i prapancham lo evaru a prataniki native lu kadhu mama!! andharu ekkado oka chota nunchi inko chota ki valasa poyina valle!!
alla ante ma africa vallu tapa evaru native lu kadhu
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Prasanth
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Post Number: 1217
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 202.141.24.2
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 7:16 am: | |
mmm
mama this topic is sensitive..eventhough i got some resources (books)..i didn;t studied at that time...I will get back to you , when I came to know clearly
babu type desam not desham...thanks!!
okanaadu jaatheeya bashaga hindi tho poti padina baasha-telugu !! |
Godfather
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Username: Godfather
Post Number: 3472
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 62.90.177.204
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 7:06 am: | |
// mana desa gana charitra kuuda....parayi desa bhikshaye ani niruupinchataniki //
aadi valla tapu kadhu mana tappu, mana charitra ni kapudukoleni leka defend chesukoleni dourbagyam manadi!!! inka i topic kalaniki velute atleast oka 7000 yrs back ki velutam!! apudu ey desham aite enti!!
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Prasanth
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Username: Prasanth
Post Number: 1216
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 202.141.24.2
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 7:05 am: | |
Europelo ekkada undhi race??
adhe aryan race ekkada undhi?
neeku evaru cheopparu?
okanaadu jaatheeya bashaga hindi tho poti padina baasha-telugu !! |
Godfather
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Username: Godfather
Post Number: 3471
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 62.90.177.204
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 7:01 am: | |
// arya ani manam gouravapoorvam ga piliche padham //
arya ki meaning adee!! kani nenu adi oka sect of ppl or race antuna
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Godfather
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Username: Godfather
Post Number: 3469
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 62.90.177.204
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 6:56 am: | |
// aryula dhanda yaatra...oka abaddhala putta //
ante aryans ane vallu mana vallena!! mana vallu aite europe lo i race ella vachindhi mana vallu attu valasa poyara
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Prasanth
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Post Number: 1215
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 202.141.24.2
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 6:52 am: | |
GF mama
idhi oka contreversial topic
paschatya desala vallu...
mana charitrani ila thappu dhari pattinchaaru
mana desa gana charitra kuuda....parayi desa bhikshaye ani niruupinchataniki
arya ani manam gouravapoorvam ga piliche padham
aryula dhanda yaatra...oka abaddhala putta
okanaadu jaatheeya bashaga hindi tho poti padina baasha-telugu !! |
Godfather
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Username: Godfather
Post Number: 3459
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 62.90.177.204
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 6:05 am: | |
aasala Aryans evaru, valla origin ekkada!!
oka vella europe nunchi aite , india ki ekkada nunchi vacharu ettu nunchi vacharu!!
leka origin INDIA na ?
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