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Kushi_ram
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Post Number: 4994
Registered: 04-2004
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Posted on Tuesday, March 15, 2005 - 5:40 pm:Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

intaki e cinema etta undi..
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Bhrigu
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Post Number: 4267
Registered: 11-2004
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Posted on Tuesday, March 15, 2005 - 5:10 pm:Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

nenu inkaa choolledu, dvd eppudosthondi ?
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Ibmast
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Post Number: 86
Registered: 03-2004
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Posted on Tuesday, March 15, 2005 - 3:40 pm:Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

finally some one stands out of the hosanna singing crowd

Black is no benchmark: Kashyap - By Our Correspondent

Anurag Kashyap has antagonised the “royals” of the film industry by refusing to call Sanjay Leela Bhansali’s Black a world class film. “When I reviewed the film for a newspaper, I stated that Black is one of our better films, but is not a benchmark for filmmakers. It will only limit the growth of future filmmakers,” justifies the writer-director.

Kashyap finds it difficult to believe that Amitabh Bachchan’s character, diagnosed with Alzheimer’s disease, actually shows all the symptoms of the Parkinson’s syndrome. “The director failed to give him the right gestures. I agree that a lot of hard work has gone into the film, but it does not translate into great performances. It qualifies for a great performance by Filmfare standards, but certainly not in the context of world cinema.”

But what gives Kashyap, a filmmaker yet to show his work on the big screen, the authority to pass judgements on any film? “I am a nobody. And you can ignore me if you wish to,” shrugs the director, whose films Paanch and Black Friday became victims of the Censor Board. “There is no black without white. There is a distinction between a great film and a commercial art film. Black falls in the second category and is quite successful, though it didn’t even create a whimper in the overseas market,” he maintains.

There’s more to come. “If you can’t digest criticism, don’t criticise others. Misleading statements about Black as the benchmark for Hindi cinema has misled producers, making it difficult for future filmmakers who are trying to make a breakthrough with their films.”

According to Kashyap, the film industry in its current scenario is playing it safe and is hypocritical. “Nobody wants to voice an opinion since they don’t want to upset successful filmmakers,” says the director who points at the blanket rule adopted for the critics’ awards. “Lakshya and Swades got better reviews, so why was Dev bestowed with the critics’ award? It has become a sort of compensatory award,” he says.

Coming back to Black, Kashyap points out that no mention was made of the writer or sound editor of the film. “It ended up being just a Sanjay Leela Bhansali film,” he states. He adds that Black is a step forward, but not a leap as it is being made out to be. “I don’t claim to be a great filmmaker, but I have seen great works and have appreciated them.”

Kashyap points out that the film industry lacks good writers. He explains how the Black controversy began. “After watching the film, I wanted to write to Bhansali about my observations, but before that, a news magazine carried my quote on Black not being a world-class film. The next thing I hear, Bhansali is upset and is calling me names. I then decided to voice my opinion through a review in another newspaper.”
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Prasanth
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Post Number: 10189
Registered: 03-2004
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Posted on Sunday, February 27, 2005 - 3:10 pm:Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

just for fun..
"certainly worth a dekko machaan."--combined three languages...

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Post Number: 82
Registered: 03-2004
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Posted on Sunday, February 27, 2005 - 3:03 pm:Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

certainly worth a dekko machaan. The chap certainly has a passion and knows the craft. Good performances (the little girl is incredible), some terrific moments but the film has its flaws which surprised me after all those rave reviews. For instance this is not a film that calls for a grand operatic orchestra as the background score.
and the occasional cliched dialogues (bechaari dekh nahin sakti bol nahin sakti)...

the other thing that slb has to be credited with is for bringing to us some of indias finest tv and theatre actors swept aside by bollywood.
(shernaz patel of buniyaad, mahesh bhatts janam,
mahbanoo modi kotwal who happens to be naseer shahs guru in theatre and who made the famous 'vagina monologues' for indian audiences,
that bengali actor etc)
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Bhrigu
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Post Number: 3844
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Posted on Sunday, February 27, 2005 - 1:59 pm:Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

to see or not to see ?
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Post Number: 79
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Posted on Sunday, February 27, 2005 - 1:46 pm:Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

baboi..yem hype chestunaaru movie ni..

No doubt it is an excellent film, but by no means is it a flawless potential oscar winner as people are making it out to be.
a very good performance by ab but certainly not a path breaking one as all the reviews and ab himself are trying to project it as. Common guys this is vintage bachchan...hey there was a lot of khuda gawah and even the recent aankhen in his performance..

as far as ranis role goes it might have been a physically strenuous one (learning the sign language etc) but it is not a complex role..Infact in an interview she almost let out the fact that slb acted out the scenes for her.

also slbs penchant for beautiful looking sets can be quite jarring..a hospital setis the last u would design aesthetically esp in a dark and gritty film.
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Tuntari
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Post Number: 544
Registered: 09-2004
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Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 - 8:07 pm:Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

>>kallu peekesaraaaaaaaaa

Ledu mabbu lo kanapadaledu anta.. velli bulb veliginchu
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Teluguhero
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Post Number: 188
Registered: 05-2004
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Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 - 8:06 pm:Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

"kallu peekesaraaaaaaaaa"

LOL good timing.
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Tifosi
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>> I can't see beyond 'Black': Big B

kallu peekesaraaaaaaaaa
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Teluguhero
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Post Number: 185
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Star of the week: Amitabh Bachchan ------------------------------ By Subhash K. Jha, IANS Just when we had begun to wonder where Amitabh Bachchan would head from the pinnacle he had reached, Sanjay Leela Bhansali provided the answer with "Black".

It's very difficult to describe the unadulterated adulation that's rightfully coming his way after "Black". It's the kind of unanimous anointment that happens to very few artistes anywhere in the world.

What kind of praise? I wouldn't even dare to venture there. Suffice it to say that as I stood with celluloid's resident god at the premiere of "Black", I could see history being made in front of my eyes. Praise poured out of every personality in the most natural tones conceivable.

No one was faking it. No one needed to. The raging passion of Bachchan's performance bolted across the screen, hitting audiences in the solar plexus and thereafter the heart.

"Oof!" said Urmila Matondkar. "Amitji just puts every leading man in the shade. What power, glory and perfection. The nuances that he brings to his character...! It's just the most glorious moment of cinema I've seen!"

I've never seen Bachchan look so content in his life. Rani Mukherjee was right when she told me, "The smile just refuses to leave Amit uncle's face."

I search the most famous face in showbiz for signs of stress. All I see is an artiste, an actor and a human being who has finally found his metier.

"It's just crazy...The reaction to 'Black' from every one is unanimous. They're all stunned. And frankly, so am I. Everyone, from Dilip Kumar saab to Shah Rukh Khan, has opened his or her heart to lavish me with the kind of praise I've never heard before," says Bachchan.

"It's so genuine...and scary. Sanjay Bhansali has put me in a monstrous dilemma. Where do I go after 'Black'? Nothing I do can match up. Nothing seems worth it..."

He sighs and gets ready to dance with his son and Aishwarya Rai. Of course he puts cent percent into the zestful dance movements.

Bachchan is a perfectionist to the core, no doubt. He doesn't agonise over his shots. He studies them with a concentration that a curator gives to the rarest of paintings.

Quite often the importance that Bachchan gives to his films is ill deserving. "'Black' came to me at just the right time," he says as I try to gauge the impact of his performance. Habitually he shies away from self-evaluation. Besides, "Black" has numbed him.

"And why just me? Everyone who has seen it feels the same way. I'll have to agree with you when you say no performance of mine has made the same impact. That's because no filmmaker is Sanjay Leela Bhansali. I tell you, he has put me in a crisis. Nothing I do will ever measure up to the standards he has set," says Bachchan.

My mind again strolls back to the historic night of the premiere where Bachchan stood looking demoniacally dapper in a black sherwani with a white churidaar. His excitement was palpable as all his guests from socialites and politicians to colleagues in the film industry trooped in.

Even Sanjay Dutt who had to be present for his own premiere of "Shabd" turned up. "Amitji is my god. And I had to be here," Sanjay said emotionally.

God is a word that is often being used for Bachchan these days. It's got to do with the calibre of performance he has given in "Black". The unanimous opinion seems to be this: screen performances have turned a corner with "Black".

Just consider the star line-up in Bollywood. At the bottom-most rung are the 22-23 year old actors like Shahid Kapoor and Sammir Dattani. Then there's the generation represented by the Khans, Ajay Devgan and Akshay Kumar, followed by the 40-plus brigade of Sanjay Dutt, Sunny Deol and Anil Kapoor.

Past that 40-plus bracket there is a huge yawning gap...until we come to the 63-year-old Bachchan.

No one thought "Black" would not only renew his career but also give it an entirely new look, feel and tempo.

"I don't know how it happened," says AB's favourite director Bhansali. "But I do know how precious his character Debraj Sahay was to Amitji. I know how much of himself he gave to it. He virtually breathed fire and life into every frame. Amitji holds the camera on his gaze. You can't take your eyes off him in 'Black'."

Now all eyes are set on Bachchan's career. What does 2005 hold for him? "I really can't say. I really don't know. Right now I can't see beyond 'Black'."

No one can.