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Rratna
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Username: Rratna
Post Number: 5629
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 69.81.55.149
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 6:18 pm: |    |
India Srilanka match meeda spread entha? |
Andhramass
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Username: Andhramass
Post Number: 14423
Registered: 07-2006
Posted From: 203.26.122.12
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 4:54 pm: | |
massiah n e bets india going to win against SL
munde decided antha
nakku matram india will lost to SL anniii outside info
మాస్ అంటే ఇష్టం, బెజవాడ అంటే ప్రాణం |
Babu
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Username: Babu
Post Number: 11263
Registered: 06-2004
Posted From: 65.208.22.25
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 4:52 pm: | |
massiah n e bets india going to win against SL
munde decided antha 
nayak mama, pani leka  |
Nayakudu
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Username: Nayakudu
Post Number: 5970
Registered: 05-2005
Posted From: 129.188.69.169
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 4:44 pm: | |
aa calculation endi babu mama asala  |
Andhramass
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Username: Andhramass
Post Number: 14420
Registered: 07-2006
Posted From: 203.26.122.12
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 4:41 pm: | |
babu goru mundi manollani SL meedha win avvamanadhiii
మాస్ అంటే ఇష్టం, బెజవాడ అంటే ప్రాణం |
Nayakudu
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Username: Nayakudu
Post Number: 5968
Registered: 05-2005
Posted From: 129.188.69.169
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 4:40 pm: | |
babu mayya  ekkadiki poledu ikkade vunna konni rojulu ala break ichha DB ki |
Babu
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Username: Babu
Post Number: 11262
Registered: 06-2004
Posted From: 65.208.22.25
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 4:38 pm: | |
nayak mama edaki poyav |
Pakodi
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Username: Pakodi
Post Number: 21406
Registered: 12-2004
Posted From: 130.15.147.81
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 4:36 pm: | |
Updated
http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/wc2007/content/cur rent/site/wc/points.html
-2.002
so 99% inka india win avuthundha ledha india annadhe question. |
Nayakudu
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Username: Nayakudu
Post Number: 5965
Registered: 05-2005
Posted From: 129.188.69.169
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 4:34 pm: | |
ento cat head shave tititi |
Babu
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Username: Babu
Post Number: 11260
Registered: 06-2004
Posted From: 65.208.22.25
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 4:33 pm: | |
1 run tho gelisthe ani  |
Rediff
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Username: Rediff
Post Number: 6642
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 67.176.122.105
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 4:20 pm: | |
if both score around 300 and india wins:
kiki |
Babu
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Username: Babu
Post Number: 11258
Registered: 06-2004
Posted From: 65.208.22.25
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 4:16 pm: | |
adi ayyake ivi anni |
Thodakottu
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Username: Thodakottu
Post Number: 16346
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 68.39.117.179
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 4:09 pm: | |
ee gola antha India gelchinappudu 
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Babu
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Username: Babu
Post Number: 11256
Registered: 06-2004
Posted From: 65.208.22.25
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 4:07 pm: | |
After IND-SL match:
if both score around 300 and india wins:
Sri Lanka 3 2 1 0 0 2 +2.99 (321+318+300)/150.0 (78+112+300)/150.0
India 3 2 1 0 0 2 +1.657 (604+300)/150.0 (348+300)/148.3
Bangladesh 2 1 1 0 0 2 -2.09 (192+112)/(48.3+50.0) (191+318)/50.0
Bermuda 2 0 2 0 0 0 -5.000 234/100.0 734/100.0
So bangla must try to get atleast 1.66 RR (remember this is their best case scenario if india wins)
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this means if they bat first:
(192+112+x)/148.3 - (191+318+y)/150.0 >= 1.66
for approximations:
(192+112+x)/150 - (191+318+y)/150.0 >= 5/3
=> ((304+x) - (519+y)) >= 250
=> x - y >= 250 + 215
=> x >= y + 465 (so in the best case scenario bangla must win by 465 runs if they bat first)
lets see if they bowl first:
Bermuda scores 150:
(192+112+150)/(98.3+z) - (191+318+150)/150.0 >= 1.66
=> 454/(98.3+z) >= 1.66 + 4.39
=> 454/(6.05) >= (98.3+z)
=> 75.04 >= 98.3 + z
so z <= -23 overs (or in other words they have ABSOLUTELY no chance)
from the above even if BAN chases 150 in 1.3 overs at 100RR, their NRR will go up from -2.09 only to 0.15 |
Thodakottu
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Username: Thodakottu
Post Number: 16345
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 68.39.117.179
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 4:03 pm: | |
Latest
Sri Lanka +4.594
India +2.507
Bangladesh -2.002
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Gudiwada
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Username: Gudiwada
Post Number: 3853
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 71.195.55.149
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 3:24 pm: | |
-2.07 anukunta ramu gaaru |
Babu
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Username: Babu
Post Number: 11255
Registered: 06-2004
Posted From: 65.208.22.25
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 3:22 pm: | |
-2.0 undi for bangla |
Ramu
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Username: Ramu
Post Number: 5256
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 199.244.214.30
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 3:18 pm: | |
ippuDu SL-BD match aipOyindigA. enta undi NRR for each team???
SL 318/50, BD 112 A.O. in 37.
rAmu(Du) manci bAluDu  cinnappaTinuncI intE |
Onlynbk
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Username: Onlynbk
Post Number: 17878
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 221.134.36.233
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 6:13 am: | |
mee wifes meekosam yedhuru chusthunarrru twarga randhi india ki\
dhoni ki pelli kaledhu
girl friend kooda ledhu anta
vadu ippude radu anta
even girls like koina mitra who are fans of dhoni , wants dhoni to make 200 runs record in an innings  |
Rediff
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Username: Rediff
Post Number: 6637
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 67.176.122.105
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 - 10:59 pm: | |
AM mama  |
Andhramass
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Username: Andhramass
Post Number: 14400
Registered: 07-2006
Posted From: 203.26.122.12
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 - 9:04 pm: | |
mundu SL meedha gelavani tarvaaathaaa alochiddhaaamm
yendhi gelichedhiiii
go india goo
mee wifes meekosam yedhuru chusthunarrru twarga randhi india ki
మాస్ అంటే ఇష్టం, బెజవాడ అంటే ప్రాణం |
Chinna
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Username: Chinna
Post Number: 899
Registered: 05-2006
Posted From: 71.134.30.24
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 - 9:02 pm: | |
mundu SL meedha gelavani tarvaaathaaa alochiddhaaamm
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Pakodi
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Username: Pakodi
Post Number: 21404
Registered: 12-2004
Posted From: 24.226.26.152
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 - 8:52 pm: | |
ninne ikkada ikkada runrate medha analysis chesaru le mama threads chusinattu levu |
Stud
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Username: Stud
Post Number: 2741
Registered: 01-2005
Posted From: 209.162.57.219
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 - 8:29 pm: | |
Unortho of IBDB;;;
nee opikaki,utsahaniki and interest ki 100 starlu mama....
chadivi ardham chesukovadanike naaku dimma thirigindhi,,inka nuvvu intha anlysisi cheyyadaniki entha time spend cehsi vuntavo ento...
hatsoff 2 u moms..awesome
a person who is energic,enthusiastic and young at heart is always kurrodu 2 me,,Durgi & Sinna  |
Andhramass
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Username: Andhramass
Post Number: 14395
Registered: 07-2006
Posted From: 203.26.122.12
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 - 8:29 pm: | |
Will India make it to Super 8 by means of Net Run Rate????
nooo
I want to take India the same flight the pakistam players where traveling and Via karachi
మాస్ అంటే ఇష్టం, బెజవాడ అంటే ప్రాణం |
Stud
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Username: Stud
Post Number: 2740
Registered: 01-2005
Posted From: 209.162.57.219
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 - 8:27 pm: | |
Will India make it to Super 8 by means of Net Run Rate????
To estimate India's prospects to Super 8, we need to first understand the Net Run Rate (NRR) concept.
Since it looks like NRR could be the only factor that would decide who would go to super 8, unless SL loses to Bangla and India loses to SL, I would like to go through some explanation surrounding NRR and scenarios and look at prospects of India making it to super 8.
First of all, I don't like NRR concept, which is supposed to be a tangible tool to estimate the quality of a win or loss in ODI. But who cares if we like it or not, it's a law and we have to follow it, whether we like it or not. When points from victories are equal, the NRR is used as a tiebreaker. And even some of the players never understood it when it was introduced in 1999 WC.
How NRR is calculated for individual matches?
IND vs Bangla
India scored 191 in 49.3 overs--->so RR is not 191/49.3=3.85, but 191/50=3.82, because overs were available to India, but they were all out.
Bangla scored 192/5 in 48.3 overs--->RR is 192/48.5=3.958.
Actually Bangla used 48.3, but for calculations 3 balls is half the over.
So Bangla's NRR is Bangla's RR-India's RR, which is 3.958-3.82=0.139
So, -0.139 NRR will be given to India from this match.
IND vs Bermuda
India scored 413/6 in 50 overs-------->so RR is 8.6
India conceded 156 All out in 43.1 overs--->opponets RR is not 156/43.1=3.61 but 156/50=3.12, because overs were available to them, but they could not use them.
Some people thought, Bermuda played more number of overs to get those runs, hence our victory quality is better. Remember, when chasing team is all out and loses, it does not matter whether Bermuda played 20 overs or 45 overs to make those 156 runs, because their runs will be divided by 50 overs to arrive at their Run Rate.
So India's NRR in bermuda's match is India's RR-Bermuda's RR, which is 8.6-3.12=5.14
So, -5.14 NRR will be given to Bermuda from this match.
Why India has poor NRR(2.507) compared to SL(4.86), though both teams beat Bermuda black and blue?
Simple-India's current NRR is from 2 matches, with one individual NRR from bangla match being a small negative figure and SL's NRR is only from one match.
Some are calculating India's NRR like this -0.139(vs Bangla)+5.14(vs Bermuda)=5.001, a himalayan blunder????
NRR for India, from 2 matches has to be calculated like this:
(Total runs scored divided by overs played)-(Total runs opponents scored divided by overs played)
(604/100)-(348/98.3)=2.507
NRR from 2 matches is not (191/50-192/48.3)+(413/50-156/50)
Remember that when calculating NRR, it's the average of NRRs from 2 matches and not an addition. When we are adding, the mistake is adding 2 NRRs but not counting that they are from 2 matches, not from a single match.
Current NRR of 2.507 for India from 2 matches can also be arrived at by average of NRRs-let's use this mechanism, which is simpler.
So India's NRR from 2 matches is (-0.139(vs Bangla)+5.14(vs Bermuda))/2=2.5005
(stats is giving this figure as 2.507, a very close figure)
NRR is very cunning yard stick as the number of matches played increases?
That's because overall NRR is not an addition of NRRs from individual matches but an average of NRRs.
SL now has a NRR of 4.86. Let's say it has the following figures from, to be played Bangla match.
Sl scores 270 runs in 50 overs---RR is 270/50=5.4
Bangla is 230 all out in 45 overs-RR is 230/50=4.6
From this match SL's NRR will be---> SL's RR-opponents RR=5.4-4.6=0.8
So, assuming the above scenario, SL will have the following NRRs from 2 matches.
NRR with bermuda=4.86
NRR with Bangla=0.8
A wrong logic might tell you that the NRR from 2 matches is 4.86+0.8=5.86, again a himalayan blunder.
Here is the right calculation: SL's NRR from 2 matches is (4.86(vs bermuda)+0.8(vs Bangla)) divided by 2 is equal to 2.83
See how the NRR has come down from 4.86 to 2.83, though SL has beaten Bangla by 40 runs.
Finally, if SL has to have the same 4.86 NRR after 2 matches, it has to beat Bangla by an NRR of 4.86. People often seem not to understand this.
Had India restricted Bermuda to 120, what would have been India's NRR?
(191+413)/(50+50) - (192+120)/(48.5+50)= 2.866
India currently has 2.507 vs 2.866, had India restricted Bermuda to 120 total.
CricInfo.com vaadu Bangla overs 48.3 ani vestunnadu, adi correct kaadu anukuntaa. Because 3 balls is half the over, we have to divide by 48.5, instead of 48.3
What are the inferences from NRR equations?
If you improve the NRR of an individual match, it would automatically improve the overall NRR for all matches you played.
How to improve the NRR from an individual match?
Scenario 1: Team 2 is All out for 100 runs and Team 1 chases 100 runs target in 10 overs.
Team 2's RR=100/50=2 (note that it does not matter how many overs team 2 played for scoring those 100 runs, as they are all out, the no of overs is taken to be 50-that's why it does not matter whether team 2 was all out in 10 overs or 49.3 overs.)
Team 1's RR=100/10=10.
Team1's NRR=Team 1's RR-Team 2's RR=10-2=8
Team2's NRR=-8
Wav...you got a NRR of 8 from a single match.
The best way to improve NRR against weker teams is to chase the target.
Scenario 2: Team 1 scores 400 runs in 50 overs and Team 2 is all out for 100 runs in 20 overs.
Team 1's RR=400/50=8
Team 2's RR=100/50=2.
Team1's NRR=8-2=6
Team2's NRR=-6
If you compare above 2 scenarios---in Scenario2, the Team 1 has beaten the team 2 comprehensively both in batting and bowling, but still has 2 points less in NRR.
The gross miscalculation of NRR does not take into account howmany wickets the Team 1 has lost in scenario 1. Though it's easier to chase 100 runs with 9 wickets lost in 10 overs than score 400 and bowl out opponent for 100 runs--scenario 1 results in to 2 points more than scenario 2, with lesser effort and lesser qualitative win, in calculating NRR.
NRR is just bull shit, someone should come up with an equation taking into account, the no of wickets lost, atleast while chasing totals, similar to Duckworth/Lewis method.
India's chances to Super 8:
Let's say-SL beats Bangla with an NRR of 0.8 (For this NRR margin, sample scenario is: SL scores 270 and Bangla AOut for 230 or if Bangla bats first and scores 230 and SL chases in 43 overs. And my guess is SL will beat Bangla by a good margin.)
Let's say, Ind beats SL with NRR of 0.8.
Then the NRRs of 3 teams with just one match to be played(Bangla Vs Bermuda) would be
SL NRR =(4.86(vs bermuda)+0.8(vs Bangla)-0.8(vs Ind)) divided by 3=1.62
IND NRR=(-0.139(vs Bangla)+5.14(vs Bermuda)+0.8(vs SL)) Divided by 3=1.933
BAN NRR=(0.139(vs IND)-0.8(vs SL)) Divided by 2=1.933=-0.335
That makes Bangla a competitor for SL not to IND. If SL beats Bangla badly and loses closely to India, then Bangla competes with India on NRR.
That's why SL has to beat Bangla heavily to make sure SL goes to super 8 on NRR basis, after losing to India. This will be advantageous to us in 3 ways: It will decrease Bangla's NRR and there by making it difficult to compete on NRR basis, second; Since India lost to Bangla, elimination of Bangla would help India get 2 points, assuming India beats SL, even if it's by a slight margin. Thirdly, all we have to care in the match with SL is a win, not aiming at better NRR.
What Bangla has to do in the last match to be better than Ind, SL's NRR?
(0.139-0.8+ new NRR) divided by 3=1.62 (according to guessed least positive NRR with just Bangla and Bermuda match left.)
This calculated new NRR for Bangla to beat bermuda will be 5.521 NRR.
Whether Bangla is competitor for IND or SL, I am guessing the asking NRR for Bangla for last match with Bermuda to be around 5.
How can Bangla get 5 NRR in the last match?
Bermuda captain-elaaguu manam out of WC, kaasepu batting annaa practice chesukundaam, chemma chekka laata aadukundaam anukuni toss gelichi first batting chesi 100 ki All out ayite, ledaa Bangla toss gelichi Bermudaa ni first batting ki dimpi, Bermudaa ni 100 ki All out cheste....
Bermuda's RR=100/50=2
Since required margin of NRR is 5.21, Bangla has to chase with (5.21+2)=7.21, in other words they have to get 100 runs in 14 overs---very much possible, because the bull shit rule of NRR does not care how many wickets Bangla will lose in the process of chasing a total of 100.
This is the nightmare I currently have, and this is the only way Bangla can enter super 8 on the NRR factor, assuming they lose to SL and India beats SL.
Bangla first bat chesi, 400 runs kotte scenario, I can't imagine and will not happen probably. Last match lo Bangla first bat chesindante, it will be out of WC. So, the most crucial thing for us is-Bangla should bat first in the last match with Bermuda. asalu idi cheppadaanike ee chaata bhaartam antaa...
If Bangla is out, we will carry 2 points, that will be more than equal to meeting the expectations and if at all India goes to super 8, which is likely, unless Bermuda bats first in the last match, it will go with 2 points.
So, the bottom line is:
If Bermuda bats first, India, most probably, will be out of WC, unless some miracles happen.
If Bermuda does not bast first, India goes to super 8, 90% chances are there for this to happen, in case Bermuda does not bat first, and all credit goes to Sehwag and Yuvraj for NRR against bermuda, and India will go with 2 points.
a person who is energic,enthusiastic and young at heart is always kurrodu 2 me,,Durgi & Sinna |
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