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Posted on Friday, July 30, 2004 - 12:26 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Sarangadhara gaarU, manchi info icchaaru! Really interesting and enlightening. naaku ee theories etc. detailed gaa teleedu... I know "of" them more than I know them. I shall post my views here soon... dinner ayyaaka.

Thanks to II bhai for this thread! mukhyamgaa Hustler, Sarangadhara laanTi interested & knowledgeable persons unnaaru kanuka idi chakkani discussion avaalani naa kOrika.

(Note: I shall try to write as much in English as possible... but if I feel I am not expressing myself like I want to, I'd switch to RTS/Telugu, in which case - if that's considerably large in content - I'd provide a PDF of the same in Telugu script. II bro, lab maaraalEmO ani cheptunnaa... if you're reading this now... I know you said you're busy!)
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Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 - 2:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP




manishi janmalu ettutadu kani maya lo padi prati janma lonu dari tapputadu , tana indriyalani adupu lo pettuko leka enno vatiki banisa avutadu , tappulu chestadu.

prati manishi lonu manchi vuntundi chedu vuntundi, manchi bhagam ekkuva vundi kasta daiva bhakti ,avaghana vunna vadu natural ga tana pani tanu chesukuntadu kani majority ala kadu .

vallaki aa gadha nidra lo nunchi melukolipe vadu ,valla asalu aina sthanam(bhagavantuni to) vallaki gurtu chesi kasta san margam pai nadipe vadu guruvu avutadu.

guruvu anna padaniki = andhakaram tolaginche vadu ani ardham , ante manishi ki kasta gnana bodha chese vadu ani ardham.


ika pote guruvu compulsory ani ekkada ledu , konta mandi sva aydhayanam chestaru , tamu telusukuntaru naluguriki cheptaru .


ee roju desham lo vunna sannasulu guruvulu kadu , prati sannasi sanyasi ayipodu .


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Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 - 2:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

prati manishi janmalu ettali , aa janamalu aa gata karmala bharanni remove cheyyataniki ettali , prati janma lo nu oka adugu paiki kindaki padutundi depending on whether he is doing good or bad , ala manchi chesukuntu slow ga telusukuntu edo oka janma ki chala pari poornata chendutadu.


ala manam chesina papa karmalu teeripoyye varaku janmalu ettali ani annappudu ee guruvulu, ee siddantalu, various theories enduku.


manishi realisiation stage ki tanu chuttu jarigina paristutulu batti telusukuntada leka deeniki guruvu avasaram compulosary na...


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Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 - 2:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP



india info garu , maya nunchi jeevudu bayata padutadu ani enduku annaru ante , tanu choose prapancham nijamainadi kadu kabatti , adi oka swapnam lantidi , manishi oka gadha nidra lo vuntadu kabatti .

kavalatne geeta lo sree krishnula varu cheppina slokam

geeta second chapter verse 69

yani sarvani bhootanam
tasyam jagrati samyami

yasyam jagrati bhootani

sa nisa pasyato munehò




What is night for all beings is the time of awakening for the self-controlled; and the time of awakening for all beings is night for the introspective sage.



ikkada ratri ante , gadha nidhra kaligina maya to vunna jeevitam , yogi melukuntadu enduku ante tana nija swaroopam telusukuntadu.

deeniki oka example shankarulu rasina nirvana shatakam.

neevu evaru ani valla guruvu garu adigina nappudu shankarulu cheppe slokam


danilo lines lo chidananda roopram sivoham sivoham antadu tani tanu ala describe chestaru as a spark of the divine.


so meeru vere laga analeru .


ika pote manishi kaivalyam chendinaka telusukuntada ante karma siddhantham nunchi okati cheppali.

prati manishi janmalu ettali , aa janamalu aa gata karmala bharanni remove cheyyataniki ettali , prati janma lo nu oka adugu paiki kindaki padutundi depending on whether he is doing good or bad , ala manchi chesukuntu slow ga telusukuntu edo oka janma ki chala pari poornata chendutadu.

ala chendina vare guruvulu , mahanubhavulu , vallaki aa janma to teeripotundi , konta mandi maha bhaktula laga pudutaru due to previous births.


so appudu vallu aa janma lo bhagavantuni choostaru , inka choosaka ikkada nilavaleru so ayana lo kaivalam chendutaru.

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Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 - 1:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

and maya nunchi bayata padda jivatma (maybe bayata padatam ane term kante tana nija swaroopam telusukunna jivatma ) TAT TWAM ASI anna vakyam laga akhariki kaivalyam chendutadu.

sanragadara garu,

maya nunchi bayatapadda jeevatma kaivalyam chendutadu ani enduku anukovali..appudu paramatma stage ki ravachu kada.

ante manishi kaivalyam chendina taruvata ne telusukuntada paramatma gurunchi..

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Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 - 8:40 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Hi Sarangadhara,
Thank you verymuch for the info

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ullasam garu , mari ekkuva praise chesaru andi , mari anta knowledge kuda naaku ledu .

ika pote books antara , hmm meeku isthamaina view batti chala vunnayi , ante within spiritual literature kuda there are various gurus and various books ,some of them are universally appreciated.

vivekananda's complete works is one such example .
though konni views ayinavi vere school of thought to differ avutayi kani good books (set of around 12 books, you can read it online to on their website )

c rajgopalachari vari mahbharatam is very accurate , danini minchi mana telugu varu malladi chandra sekhara shastri garu rasina pustakalu bharatam paina vunna doubts and ramayanam paina doubts ni teercha galavu.

anniti kante minchi gita paina rasina varu chala mandi vunnaru , it is the single most bone of contention between scholars so edi more suitable oo naaku teliyadu but some books have a lot of acclaim.

1.aurobindo ghosh(essays on the gita) ---founder of the aurobindo ashram and related to theosophical society of india
2.bal gangadhar tilak (great freedom fighter , very few know he is a great scholar too) gita karma rahasyam --- ttd varu ee books ni acchi veyincharu .


ika pote vaishava siddhantam sthapinchina ramanujula varu , atu advaitam staphinchina adi shankarulu , karma yogam paina tama tama views rasaru , scholastic interest vunte adi choodagalaru.


modern times ki saints ga peru tecchukunna vallu endaro vunnaru

1.swami sivananda( sivananda ashram ) risikesh , divine life society of india

2.ramana maharishi ( called the greatest modern age yogi)

3.swami rama (himalayan institute)

4.david frawley(though he is a westerner , he is the first one to have the title of vedacharya) mana kante ekkuva time spend chesi chala nerchukunnaru ---head of american vedic studies institute

inka meeta varu

1.chinna jeeyar varu rasina enno pustakalu
2.kanchi kamakoti (paramacharya varu ) previously varu rasina books.

inka kavalante meeru ee websites choodagalaru

http://www.dlshq.org/aims.htm

http://www.ramana-maharshi.org/

http://www.vedanet.com/

http://www.kamakoti.org/

http://www.chinnajeeyar.org/

ivi kakunda meeku online lo hindu books references chala vuntayi example
http://hindubooks.org/dynamic/

ee site lo meeru choodagalaru.

hope this info helps one and all


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Posted on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 4:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Hello Sarangadhara ,
You have a great knowledge.
Neenu chala basics nunchi start cheyyali.
I like the way you are explaining the views and defnitly appriciated your time for explaining all the good.
Naaku nuvvu emi books chaduvutavo telusukovali vundi.

Thanks u.
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Posted on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 2:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Thanks sarang bhai.

I guess the debate is more pertained to the dominance factor between different sects of brahmins. It is just two different perspectives of two great gurus of our indian history. I guess people fail to see those different philosophies and crib about the superiority of one over the other.
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hustler bhai , agree on your views on advaita and visishta advaita , chala debate vundi dani paina , enno centuries nunchi.

dwaita also known as tattavwada stapinchindi madhavcharyula varu , karnataka prantam veeridi, mantralayam raghavendra swami varu veeri sampradyam ki chendina vare .

ika pote core lo ekkada differ avutundi ante dwaita , idi purely bhakti sampradayam and main point is
Sri Madhwa's philosophy is the infinite plurality of souls. He proclaims that five-fold differences are eternal. The souls are different from one another, as well as from God and the world. The world is different from the souls. The differnet aspects of matter differ among themselves. This is the celebrated Panchabheda. This differnece persists even in moksha. Even after release souls are graded in respect of their perfection. The souls are also of the nature of gunas. So they are in the nature of prakriti.

Another important doctrine is that the world according to Sri Madhwa is real. It is the creation of God It is not created by man.

He insists on bhakthi as the method to attain the Lord. It is supreme attachment to the lord based on the complete understanding of the greatness and the supremacy of the Lord which transcends all kinds of love. This kind of amala bhakthi alone secures moksha.



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Posted on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 1:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Sarang bhai

good informtaion there. Thanks!

Adwaitam lo jeevatma and paramatma okate antadu kada. Shankaracharyula vaaru "Aham brahmasmi" ane idealogy toh adwaitam chepparu. Ramanuja charyula vaaru jeevtama nu lead chesede paramatma ani adwaitanni vishishtanga chepparu. Kani dwaitam philosophy enti? Konchem cheputhara.

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hmm indiainfo garu manchi question ne adigaru , naaku telisinadi cheptanu , edaina tappulu vunte db lo vunna knowledgable people correct cheyyandi.

meeru anna question ki kasta modify chestanu

jeevatma and paramatma ki difference ani.

ide point paina three major sects hinduism lo differ avutayi ,not exactly on differences kani ultimately moksham or nirvana appudu emi jarugutundi ani, aa details loki ippude vellanu .

1.visishta advaitam
2.advaitam
3.dwaitam

coming to core question jivatma ki paramatma ki
atma== self that which reveals as the 'I' in the hearts of all.

jiva==A Jiva is someone who sees himself to be limited by space & time - he is at one place alone and not everywhere, and his existence is at a particular time alone and not at all times


ante jeevudiki maya cheta ee limitations vastayi , above cheppinavi , avi tolagi poyi tanani tanu sakala srusthi lo choosina nadu paramatma ga pilustamu ade moksham , he longer ceases to exist aa bhagavantuni lo kalasipotadu .


param= asalu limitation leni tatvamu , anni velala , anni chotla , kalamu , samayamu , elanti limitation leni tatvamu.

prahladudu tana tandri to anna matalu

indu galadu , andu ledu ani sandehamu valadu , endendu vetiki choosina hari ande galadu .


and maya nunchi bayata padda jivatma (maybe bayata padatam ane term kante tana nija swaroopam telusukunna jivatma ) TAT TWAM ASI anna vakyam laga akhariki kaivalyam chendutadu.






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sarangadara garu,
first i want to know the diff between aatma and paramatma.
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Hi sarangadhara garu,
so nice of you that you replied to this post. I am so curious to discuss about these issues. I have studied your replies and filled with lot of doubts.
I want little bit of time and i will come with my questions.

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fine idleburra mama , graduation deggariki vastundi kada , all the best to you , columbus kuda shifting anukunta kada .

take care have fun

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indiainfo garu meeru adigina question ki rendu konala nunchi answer ivvochu , okati devudini nammina variki , okati nammani variki , depends on the view point ante.

nammina variki ayite karma siddhantam nunchi ivvochu .

manishi jeevitaniki akhari gamyam moksham , nirvana, kaivalyam ga vedalu cheputayi , daniki chala definitons vunnayi , cheppe antati vadin kadu .

one of the definitons is to reduce the inner conflict and become one with all of nature .

manishi srusthi to okati ayinanappudu , no longer is he is separate from it , oka sense of peace vacchinappudu no longer garshana or conflict.


ika pote idi evi nammani variki , in the way meeru cheppinattu

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manam samasyala nunchi tappinchukogalama...
leka manaki manam samayalu struchukuntunnama...
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samasyala nunchi tappinchovatam ani alochinche kante akkada manishi choose vidhanam mariste saripotundi .

illustrate cheyyataniki example

oka employee vundocchu , tanaki job lo suppose problem vacchindi danini tanu two sides nunchi view cheyyochu , either he can turn bitter and get angry and feel suffocated , or he can calmly hanlde it and view it as an opportunity to improve his skills.

glass half full or half empty annadi view akkada.

ide beleivers ayite everything in the hands of god ani calm ga chesukuntaru .

rendo part of the question are we creating problems for ourselves.

definite ga yes kani unconsciously , prati vadiki life lo priorities vuntayi , kakapote misplaced ones when it comes to wealth and other things.

wealth kosam parigettina nadu ennadu satisfaction vundadu , alage fame kosam , alage vere dani kosam.

korikalu anevi gurrali lantivi , anduke non beleivers ki ayite flow with the river path antaru .

ade beleivers ayite korikalani jayinchandi antaru

ee issue ni further discuss cheyyalante cheppandi sure ga cheddamu.

hope what little i know meeku use ayindi ani
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thread title choosi maa vodi gharshana anukuni aavesamga vachaa...

tonig chooste telisindi idi Indiainfo babai gharshana ani :-(
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samasyali ela edurkuntamu annadi prasna prasanth mama.problems vachinappudu manaki maname solve chesukovali.mari alantappudu ee aasuya,kullu anevi ekkada nunchi vachayi. okari tho fightings pettukovatam avasarama.




enti mama nee question maaripoyindi....

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samasyali ela edurkuntamu annadi prasna prasanth mama.problems vachinappudu manaki maname solve chesukovali.mari alantappudu ee aasuya,kullu anevi ekkada nunchi vachayi. okari tho fightings pettukovatam avasarama.
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samasyalu anevi pratyekamga srushtinchapadavu....
avi mana chetullone unnaayi.....konni samasyalu mana chetullo levu..
kaani samasyalni samaysaga baavinchakunda....adhi manaki pareekshaga baavinchi...kartavyaanni saadhinchaali!!


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gaali lo deepam petti neede baram ani maatram analemu freak mama.

ippudu nuvvu cheppina answer devudu unnadu ani namme vaaru gurunchi. mari devudini nammani vaaru kuda untaru. i will say that problems are part of our life nad it's our thinking and the approach that will solve the problem. but at the same time manaki manam konni konni saarlu problems create chesukuntunnama ani doubt vastundi.
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Prasanth
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quote:

okaru vastaru ani bavinchanu





evaru
ARJUN-GUDUMBA going to rock box-office!!!
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galilo deepam petti neede baram devudaa anna type lo kakunda 80 percent hard work chesthe migitadi aa balaji ee chosukuntadani naa strong feelin! so ee life lo problems aneevi nenu pattinchukonu endukantee ivanni just athani creation and athanee choosukuntadu ....

okka mukka lo cheppalantee i go with the flow.. i live today rather for tomorrow.
maava count 48....jagratha
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Posted on Saturday, July 24, 2004 - 12:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

thread title choodagae okaru vastaru ani bavinchanu...
vaaru inka raaledu
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Posted on Saturday, July 24, 2004 - 12:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

cinema kaadu mama...manam nityam garshana padata untamu ani naa abhiprayam. manam nityam samasyaltho satamavuta untamu.vaatiki solutions find out chesi bayatapadede garshana kada. ee garshana manam chanipoyye varaku antam avvadu ani naa abhiprayam.meeru emi antaru...
manam samasyala nunchi tappinchukogalama...
leka manaki manam samayalu struchukuntunnama...

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iddariki thanx...papmichina rendu linkulu vochayaii

pass mam khaka khaka vunda
maava count 48....jagratha
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Posted on Saturday, July 24, 2004 - 12:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

taadesi etu povavayya
maava count 48....jagratha
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meeru disc start cheyyandi ani tuchaga open chesinattunnaadu thaadu.....

garshana gurinchi inka start avvaledule hadavudi!!
ARJUN-GUDUMBA going to rock box-office!!!
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Posted on Saturday, July 24, 2004 - 12:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

cinema naa patala leka,,, venkat mama vs ??

enti mama
maava count 48....jagratha
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