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Posted on Friday, July 09, 2004 - 8:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

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How are you?
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Posted on Friday, July 09, 2004 - 7:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

ayuna eedu susindi 2 movies avi kuda boku movies malli telugu cinema la development meedha commenting..

taj mahal ki rALLettina kUlilaki mA haranna ki pedda tEDA lEdu
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Posted on Friday, July 09, 2004 - 7:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

I do not owe anything to anybody. Shiva was a good film and that is why I got some fame. When I made bad films, people rejected me.

This is true. I agree with him.

You are the guys who driven me out of Telugu film industry. Now you are asking me to make films in Telugu. I do not even know that much of actors in Telugu now.
He is right partly.. but saying he does not know any actors and showing that as a reason for not making films is G balupu

Compared to what Shiva has brought into Telugu film industry, there is not much progress in the past 14 years.
He said he watched only 2 films Jayam and Idiot.. then how the hell could he comment on the progress??
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Posted on Friday, July 09, 2004 - 7:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

TK mama

compare telugu movies and tamil movies in this 14 years and u will know the difference.

tamil movies ante OA ane abiprayam undedi, ippudu kuda OA una, they are very much improved but telugu lo improvement emi pedaga ledu.

i too hate him for his rude comments but thats the truth. i even hate him for dubbing his movies into telugu and again commenting on telugu, but the truth is telugu cinema stopped progressing.

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antha ledhu lee Amar mama..

adedhoo uddarechisadani pose lu vaadu..

14 years loo emi development ledhu anta adhedhoo vaade selavithe santoshithamu kadha..



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Posted on Friday, July 09, 2004 - 7:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

what he said is true but he said like a slap on face so its difficult to accept but we have to agree with his statement.
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if telugu cinema has see biggest achivement after Ramu then it is Vijaya bhaskar style of film making.

KVs obsession of close ups, vinayaks obsession of bigger than life(ala shankar) are some major changes.

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Posted on Friday, July 09, 2004 - 12:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

krishna9 mama,

I think RGV was AD for rao garillu. he had contacts in the industyr, his father was a technician with annapurna studios. for an absolute newcomer, getting an audience with top stars is not that easy.

vaadu siva ki Nag ki credit iyyeledu ante vaadi style alantide, em cheyyelem. alaage aftab , manoj bajpai, vivek oberoi veellaki breaks icharu kada ani evaro adigithe, break ledu bongu ledu - pure business annadu. I use them, they use me. so that way he is not inconsistent, he has extended the same thing to Nag and himself too.

But for someone who has only seen two telugu movies in the past 5 years, I dont think he has a right to comment on our movies. aadellaka chala trends vachinayyi, seema movies, teenage love stories. ala ante Teja gaadu 5 years lo introduce chesinantha talent RGV thana first 5 years lo chesaada ?

I think the point is that he hates the traditional indina style of film-making. doesnt like songs and dances, so thinks whoever resorts to that is a waste. at the sametime, cannot fathom the fact that ppl he admire,like MR and even shekar kapoor are staunch supporters of our song,dance routines.

Varma ki evarnna thelisthe cheppagalaru, vaaru ellipoina tharuvatha telugu cinema lo vachina changes - dialogue based healthy comedy, seema movies ( OD aindi kaani lekapothe this is a very powerful theme actually ), teenage love stories, lotsa new talent in the movies, greater variety in songs thanks to many new MDs, inka unnai.
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hello sreekanth mama.

nice meeting u...naa peru kooda sreekanth ee
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dasara mama,

oka cinema start chesi cheppa pettakunda vadilesi vellipote heroes ki kaalada ? he began a movie with chiru and abandoned. first andaru chiru ni aadiposukunnaru and then people realized it was ramu who ran away to make a hindi movie...chiru ki kalada ?

how can u act arrogant and expect people to understand that as self-confidence ?
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Posted on Friday, July 09, 2004 - 11:28 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

http://www.geocities.com/rgv_shiva/biography.htm

ippude chakkaga vachindi website..
link post chesaano ledo... appude andaru daani meeda padinattu vunnaru. bandwidth limit reach ayipoyindi.

I will post the contents later anyway.
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Posted on Friday, July 09, 2004 - 11:26 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

>>CAN HE MAKE A TELUGU MOVIE WITHOUT THESE SELF-OBSESSED STARS WHO DONT HAVE AN INKLING OF WHAT ACTING IS?


RGV is no less (in terms of self-obsession).
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If the Hindi censor board objects to release his his film on some grounds, will he stop making films in Hindi too.. and move to Bengali or Kannada films.

All this driving out, is pure trash. Nobody can drive off anyone just like that. Bollywood is a bigger markets, so he wants to stay there. Telugu films are second biggest, and thats the only reason he does not want to leave it.
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ALL ABOUT RAMU SIR

http://www.geocities.com/rgv_shiva/biography.htm


Dasarabullodu are you anti everyone who differ in opinion with you?
Sounds silly right?

mama.. why would i store his biography if I wasn't his fan and arguing here just for the heck of it???
I am one of the biggest ramu fans u can see around and stand by my opinion no matter how others misinterpret it.
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Let us see some points-

Ramu changed the way telugu films make technically. No other movie impacted that much after Siva.

He single handedly changed the way movies are made (in corporateway) in hindi where Amitab, Subhash ghi etc. failed. Now everybody follows his style. He gained most respect from heros, technitians to producers in bollywood than anybody else in the short time. He suceeded repeartedly where Maniratnam, Kamlhassan or many big southies failed repeatedly.

He became more of a business man than artist now-a-days. But if it is what he wants, why should he care about anything else?

His movies are not big hits, but he always made money. Because of low cost (new directors, new artists and no big sets, aimed for metros)

He is frank, some what arrogant. In my view, humility is overrated.

He is correct in saying telugu film making style is worst, no respect for talent or business. Just hypocrisy, hero worship and chamchagiri. He certainly won't fit here.

He gave chances to many new directs and gave life to many artists, but never claimed and always made a point that it is mutual benifit. He is honest. So when he says he don't owe Nag, he meant in the same way. Nag was benefited more than Varma from Siva.

I don't like his movies, but I agree with his points. I don't like his arrogance but I respect his honesty.
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That idiot, doesnt even aknowledge his telugu roots openly in Mumbai. Again all top level execs in Verma Corp are from his community only. Whether he accepts it or not, he is a product of the telugu community, and telugu cinema field.

I think technologically, we haven't used anything path breaking, like SteadyCam for Siva, but we have moved ahead.

1) Avid Editing : Hollywood standard 4.3 Suite used in most films.
2) Compositing of scenes (correcting minor errors of cinematographer through computers)
3) Sound effects - earlier re-recordists used to buy these "sound packs" from Bombay, USA. These consists of pre-recorded sounds like doom, daam, dishoom and a car pass by etc., But now our people are recording sounds on thier own. The FX during fights in Badri, Kushi are an excellent example.

4) Camera - tollywood uses the latest camera, matching international standard. Its just that we dont use the "cream la de creme" amongst camera's which have motion capture this and that. The Akela, Steadyshot, Girraffe are all latest and used worldwide.

While coming to scripting, I think there is some more scope for improvement. Be happy, we are better than Bollywood when it comes to scripting. Entertainers are the only films, scripted there while we are still making movies which shows sentiment, reflect culture etc., I dont like too artistic films too. I think Verma better bow his head to us, and begin making films in telugu again..
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Posted on Friday, July 09, 2004 - 10:59 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Dasara mama,

- agreed he is technically brilliant.
- agreed he created a trend in the industry
- agreed he gave movies like shiva/gayam which defined the concept of intensity to the industry...

BUT why throw tantrums ? why behave like an idelogist when he is not one ?

humble ga vunte emi poddi...ramu kante great directors vachi ee arrogance valle M kudisipoyeru annadi nijam.


MPS mama.. agreed he was a bit blunt in this interview.
but the fact is .. he was provoked with blunter questions. no celebrity ever criticize public. its poor PR and utter stupiditiy. do u think ramu is a dumbo?

BTW, his qualms are regarding the so called stars of telugu industry. not us... the telugu people. otherwise, would he have made so many movies in telugu? dont tell me he used telugu industry JUST as a launchpad. because.. even after rangeela which is a sensational hit all over india, he made telugu movies.

CAN HE MAKE A TELUGU MOVIE WITHOUT THESE SELF-OBSESSED STARS WHO DONT HAVE AN INKLING OF WHAT ACTING IS?

look at your own post#1156 -
when guys like chiru and nbk are unhappy its difficult to survive in the industry


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quote:

Its easy to ridicule people thinking that you are very intelligent. But in the end it is such arrogance that gets ridiculed.




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baga cheppav MPS mama naa 5 *s neeke.

Veediki vadoka pedda puding anukuntaadu.
Nenu Leg pedithe Banjaru bhoomi ayina Iragapadi pandalsindhe
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Dasarabullodu,

Its easy to ridicule people thinking that you are very intelligent. But in the end it is such arrogance that gets ridiculed.
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You are right Chamanthi we really need not care what those mumbai models/heroines have to say about our Telugu industry which is far more advanced in terms of film making, technical capabilities and hidden talents....
Those mumbai heroines are just meant to show off their skin and thats it.....
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>> oka thambura and oka dol and harmonium thechi koorchondi. 24x7 ramu meeda yedavandi.

IS IT NOT PERSONAL ...?
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Dasarabullodu are you anti everyone who differ in opinion with you?

Sounds silly right?


ofcos.. very silly.
I am just standing by my opinion. thats all.

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>> HE WAS PROVOKED

WHO PROVOKED HIM ?
DO U HAVE RIGHTS TO HURT THE SENTIMENTS OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WHO PRAY LORD VENKATESWARA ...

DO U AGREE WHEN SOMEBODY PUT THEIR LEG ON LORD VENKATESWARA'S HEAD.

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GG mama.. please dont go personal... if u really believe u can sustain the argument.
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Dasara mama,

- agreed he is technically brilliant.
- agreed he created a trend in the industry
- agreed he gave movies like shiva/gayam which defined the concept of intensity to the industry...

BUT why throw tantrums ? why behave like an idelogist when he is not one ?

humble ga vunte emi poddi...ramu kante great directors vachi ee arrogance valle M kudisipoyeru annadi nijam.

we would definetely like to see many more movies from him BUT also consider that he is not from the sky and made of bones and flesh like the other directors.
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I don't like certain aspects of RGV. That does not make me anti-RGV.

Dasarabullodu are you anti everyone who differ in opinion with you?

Sounds silly right?


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If he finds better audience, it doesn't mean he should critisize us ...

HE WAS PROVOKED. it is very clear from the questions of the interview.

he is not that bad in PR. or immature to criticize people.

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quote:

we can make a list actually..
National awards 2003 Jury, Raveena tandon, Pooja butt, Ram gopal verma...



WHya do u want to repeat this, what credibility they have to talk abt Tollywood.

Raveen Tandon / Poojabhat ...what they to criticize abt tollywood ...



Looks like u are so facinated abt any thing, which criticizes andhratites/telugu nativity ..
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Good thoughts Dasarabullodu, but just don't jump to conclusions that I am anti-RGV.


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mari inka entha mandi chetha "chee" kottinchukuntaaru cheppu? (tollywood i mean)

we can make a list actually..
National awards 2003 Jury, Raveena tandon, Pooja butt, Ram gopal verma...
(veellantha directga chee kottina vaaru)

ram goppal verma movies manamu choodakudadu ani ippudu antaavu . ilaaga ignore chesthoo pothe .. inka whole india chee koduthundi telugu film industry ni.. appudu em chesthaavu?
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DBullodu mama
Looks like u are ashamed of Andhra People/or Telugites who like their nativity
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>> he found "better audiences" elsewhere. so he left. as simple as that.

What ..audience u are talking abt ...
RGV movies run only in MUMBAI,HYD,BANGLORE ..

Neither overseas nor Delhi + Northern India.


If he finds better audience, it doesn't mean he should critisize us ...
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MPS gaali and other anti-ramu friends,

what are u achieving by discussing this? and creating your own stories? frankly, tell me does any common movie goer knows any of the director names in telugu industry?? its all because of ridiculous hero worshipping.
A DIRECTOR IS THE SUTHRADHAARUDU OF A MOVIE.
he found "better audiences" elsewhere. so he left. as simple as that.

oka thambura and oka dol and harmonium thechi koorchondi. 24x7 ramu meeda yedavandi.
BUT RAMU WILL REACH WHERE HE IS DESTINED TO

company is one of the best movies ever indian made movies.

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>>>>>>>>>There's nothing wrong in what he does as long as he does not look for silly excuses for not making telugu movies

gaali mama,
ippudu ramu palana valla molana nenu vellipoyanu vaallu sorry chebite nenu malli vasta ante we can think that he is looking for excuses.
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adi correct ae GAALI mama

asalu aadu telugu lo cheyatam ledu ani manam aadini adagadam deniki aaditho neethulu seppinchukotam deniki

aadu leka pothe inka evadu ledaa

he is just looking to grow and expand his business that's all

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Deepblue sodara,

There's nothing wrong in what he does as long as he does not look for silly excuses for not making telugu movies.


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Posted on Friday, July 09, 2004 - 10:26 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP


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GO GO RAMU




Gattiga anaku DB mama, Venu mama ikkada yedho nagna vanithala dance undhani vachina vastadu!
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//cinema tiyyara ante oka casette, cloak room ticket lekapote underworld...//
MPS, I agree with you mama. I used to be a big fan of Varma and used to watch all his movies repeatedly. I watched his Shiva movie n number of times. Nenu 10th lo vunnappudu vacchinatlundi mama aa Cinema, gradutation varaku choostune vunnanu (Casette lo). I liked that movie that much. There is no other movie than Shiva which made such an impact on Telugu Films (on technical aspects).
But off late, he is irritating. All his movies follow only 3 themes. Hero, heroine elope and Villans Chase them OR Horror movies OR UnderWorld movies that's it.
That too, yesterday in the interview, he was very arrogant. He was saying I don't need to Owe to anyone. He could have atleast mentioned Nag's name. As you know Nag recognised his talent and gave him a chance to direct Siva. That too the unique thing is, as you know Ramu is the only and the first director in Telugu movies to become a film director without any experience. He didn't work as co-director or assistant director any where. He used to watch movies like us and one fine day became a director (through the contact of his father KrishnamRaju who is a sound engineer in Annapurna Studios). Atlaanti vaadini gurtinchi avakaasam isthe min krutagnata ledu vaadiki. Daaniki thodu aa Voormila kosam vaadi pellam ni koodaa vadilesaadu. I used to like him a lot earlier kaani ee madhya chiraku teppistunnadu..
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Govinda Govinda is just an excuse. Ramu's style of film making does not suit our STAR culture in Telugu except for Nag and Venky (to some extent).

asalu cut avakapoina GG was badly made movie.


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Govinda Govinda is just an excuse. Ramu's style of film making does not suit our STAR culture in Telugu except for Nag and Venky (to some extent).


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Posted on Friday, July 09, 2004 - 10:21 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

>>>Censor board meda aligi vellipoyaadu

??? vorni
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Posted on Friday, July 09, 2004 - 10:20 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Bulugu mama Verma hits HINDI lo enni vunaayo cheputaava...
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Posted on Friday, July 09, 2004 - 10:16 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Govinda Govinda time lo kaalindi

and aadi thapu emundi, he is getting wider audiences nation wide and has become an industry by himself

GO GO RAMU
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Posted on Friday, July 09, 2004 - 10:14 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

Ledu thammi,

He left the telugu industry after Govinda Govinda. Censor board meda aligi vellipoyaadu. Very childish.

Here he mentioned that "you guys drove me out". Looks like he's looking for an excuse, thats all.
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Posted on Friday, July 09, 2004 - 10:06 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

media kept mentioning that ramu is arrogant probably because of his non-chalant replies to the press. also he was showing too much favoritism towards hindi movies and postponed a movie with chiru. this gave him a bad name...

when guys like chiru and nbk are unhappy its difficult to survive in the industry. mana bellam gaadi stithi choodam ga ?
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You are the guys who driven me out of Telugu film industry. Now you are asking me to make films in Telugu. I do not even know that much of actors in Telugu now.




MPS thammi,

What did RGV mean by this? Who drove himout of telugu industry and why?
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Posted on Friday, July 09, 2004 - 10:01 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

>>>Lets not crave for sour grapes

ee ramu gaadu mountain red flower gaadu...ok he made good movies like shiva and kshanakshnanam BUT people like KRR gave many many more and are very humble.

cinema tiyyara ante oka casette, cloak room ticket lekapote underworld...veedi kante krishna vamsi is miles ahead. atleast he has variety. people may not agree but this is my opinion.
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Posted on Friday, July 09, 2004 - 9:57 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

If he does not need us then we do not need him either. He is happy where he is and we are as we are.

Who cares. Lets not crave for sour grapes.
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Posted on Friday, July 09, 2004 - 9:40 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP

I applaud his bold replies for those arrogant questions from the journalists.
so much so that they even repeatedly asked him whether he will do any movies in telugu.
alteast they should have got some lesson after this interview that you cannot play around with ramu... with such grossly stupid and disrespectful questions.
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Although Varma is a versatile and and excellent director...I condemn his comments in this interview. What do you guys have to say.

It was Telugu film industry that made you a star director. And now you say you are not interested in directing Telugu films. Is it fair?
I do not owe anything to anybody. Shiva was a good film and that is why I got some fame. When I made bad films, people rejected me.

Will you direct a straight Telugu film or not?
You are the guys who driven me out of Telugu film industry. Now you are asking me to make films in Telugu. I do not even know that much of actors in Telugu now.

What do you think about standards of filmmaking and technology in Telugu?}
Compared to what Shiva has brought into Telugu film industry, there is not much progress in the past 14 years.