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Phani_pulp_f
Pilla Bewarse
Username: Phani_pulp_f
Post Number: 74
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 202.138.112.243
| | Posted on Monday, September 20, 2004 - 11:04 am: |    |
Finally saw the movie yesterday..
The movie had a lot of style and is definetely an achievement for brazilian standards..
But it lacked a lot in the content Dept.. As chalam pointed..the killings with reckless abandon were the cynosure of the movie and visisble in every frame..
Not a single gangster movie or a non-linearly narrated movie ever escapes without being compared to Pulp fiction or Tarantino and this movie is no exception..
PF or QT is not just about non linear narration or naming of chapters or about ending the movie where it has started..Thats just a medium through which the story is told ..CONTENT is what PF is all about..(unique characterisations, amazing one liners,the philosophical feel and moral attached to every chapter etc etc etc) ..and this made the film one of the best of all time...
The same applies to Stone..His scripts have a lot of FEEL and WORTH attached to them(platoon,JFK,any given sunday, born on 4th of july) and then comes his characteristic handling..
Cidade de Deus lacks a lot in this dept..on the other hand,it can be compared to guy ritchie's snatch and LSTSB in every manner including the fluidity of the camera, non linear narration, style etc..
ok..Got to go..Prasad's lo Village book chesaamu.. will be back later..
A FANATIC cannot change his mind and wouldn't change the subject |
Phani_pulp_f
Pilla Bewarse
Username: Phani_pulp_f
Post Number: 46
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 202.138.112.243
| | Posted on Friday, July 23, 2004 - 10:04 am: | |
chalam mama: QT doesnt resort to such cheap techniques, a good story teller innovates more in the 'form' not just the style.
5 stars..
IBM..u stole my words in ur post#39..i always felt the same about this guy.. mana telugu lo best ..oppukuntaanu..but nothing more or nothing amazing other then that.. |
Hustler
Kurra Bewarse
Username: Hustler
Post Number: 300
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 138.87.149.32
| | Posted on Thursday, July 22, 2004 - 5:20 pm: | |
quote:I would have also liked a more serious effort without all that sanghavi crap but then he needs to make some money too.
well he surely knows how to make money unlike RGV he stuffs much drama into his films. I kinda liked his movie Murari but then i also thought the drama by Laxmi was way overboard and Kv does that stuff all the time and particulary with laxmi.
khadgam was another piece of crap which was hailed a masterpiece just like sindhhoram.He is a shrewed filmmaker and he just kicks out a social awareness film with lot of commercial stuff and gets all praise for it. A poor imitation of MR i should say! |
Chalam
Vooriki Bewarse
Username: Chalam
Post Number: 1441
Registered: 04-2004
Posted From: 148.87.1.171
| | Posted on Thursday, July 22, 2004 - 4:44 pm: | |
wokay, enuf time in bewarse sections. I am not fit to be one. 
IBM and hustler, I dont think KV was trying to exactly represent the naxal problem as it exists today, it was a limited but a good effort in showing how normal ppl got drawn into it when it still made some sense. that he had to introduce some bad apples in naxals was to represent today's reality. I would have also liked a more serious effort without all that sanghavi crap but then he needs to make some money too.
the take away points for me were the opening shot ( green paddy fields lo explosion - totally awesome, symbolically and otherwise) and the mellifluous music.
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Hustler
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Username: Hustler
Post Number: 294
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 12.221.228.62
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 21, 2004 - 11:56 am: | |
quote:sindhooram was interesting because of the subject
ibmast bhai.
yes the subject was interesting but the way he handled that subject was pale. He should have done more research on that.
I have spent good amount of time in telengana and I had lived in some rural dists of telengana. Naxalism was a way of life in the place where i spent my childhood. Many of the youngsters joined naxals for money. Janashakti naxals group anedi okati undi aaa group oka mafia group lantidi. They do nothing but extortion. Sindhooram lo KV gaadu naxals vypu sympathy generate chesthadu konchem. The movie gets confusing with all kinds of melodrama and stuff. I thought KV was more interested in showing off sanghavi and drama.
I guess if the same subject handled by a director like RGV , then he would have tried to give more insight what modern day naxalism is all about. |
Ibmast
Pilla Bewarse
Username: Ibmast
Post Number: 39
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 80.3.128.6
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 21, 2004 - 1:51 am: | |
"ninne pelladatha lo tabu vallamma phone chese scene untadi, antha normal scene lo kooda camera ni etta thipputhaado soodu."
camera thippadam tappa inkemaina vachaa this so called 'creative director' ki. i fail to understand why this chap is regarded so highly...
i havent found anything extraordinary or remarkable in his films...np.gulabi were crap..sindhooram was interesting because of the subject not that it was a great film ..thats it...havent seen khadgam though..yedo technical wizard antaaru...donno why.. shakti-the power choosara?? yilanti sub standard film teesi he has the gall to say that it is his best..
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Ibmast
Pilla Bewarse
Username: Ibmast
Post Number: 38
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 80.3.128.6
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 21, 2004 - 1:43 am: | |
"avant garde filmmakers, vanta gaarady lu sese filmmakers endukule gaani"
LOL .... |
Chalam
Vooriki Bewarse
Username: Chalam
Post Number: 1342
Registered: 04-2004
Posted From: 148.87.1.171
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 20, 2004 - 8:39 pm: | |
sare amar mama, nuvvetta ante attane.
KV gaadi camera kathile mama. ninne pelladatha lo tabu vallamma phone chese scene untadi, antha normal scene lo kooda camera ni etta thipputhaado soodu.
RGV em contribute sesaadu ante, chalaane chesadu mama. cinema is ultimately an emotional medium, the movie should appeal to your senses, any kind of technical wizardry only takes you to a certain extent. ee city of god director gadu kooda pedha contribute chesindemi ledu. and I repeat - the shock value of the content is the clincher for this movie.
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Amar
Kurra Bewarse
Username: Amar
Post Number: 179
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 24.13.70.185
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 20, 2004 - 8:17 pm: | |
chalam
u r missing the point.
KV is obsessed with closeups and is a master of that, KV's contribution to cinema school can be said to be his style of close obsessions with protoganists faces.
but what is varmas niche or usp which is different than any other film maker in west.
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Chalam
Vooriki Bewarse
Username: Chalam
Post Number: 1286
Registered: 04-2004
Posted From: 148.87.1.171
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 20, 2004 - 1:23 pm: | |
amar bhaiyya - avant garde filmmakers, vanta gaarady lu sese filmmakers endukule gaani, so much admiration for the movie is simply because it's shocking for the material. moreover, it's a real-life story, that makes it even more appalling, anduke anthalaati reactions. Other than the 'apmt entry scene of lil-ze' I dont think there are any innovative techniques in this movies. all blindly copied from QT and stone. c
camera gira gira thippadam, move cheyyedam - even krshnavamsi does that, but that does not make him an avani-gadda filmmaker, does it ?
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Naidubawa
Pilla Bewarse
Username: Naidubawa
Post Number: 6
Registered: 07-2004
Posted From: 24.6.212.198
| | Posted on Monday, July 19, 2004 - 11:47 pm: | |
kathi lanti cinema. nariki dobbude.
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Amar
Kurra Bewarse
Username: Amar
Post Number: 175
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 24.13.70.185
| | Posted on Monday, July 19, 2004 - 10:05 pm: | |
chalam
u r again falling into the same trap as i was saying, u saying RGV would have produced a classic with same stuff, u mean he would have used the same cliched style used by others and feed ur apetite, he is not an avant garde film maker.
most of the cliched stuff when used for first time by other directors have never been perfect, so even though this was not perfect, this style is certainly a new one. |
Chalam
Vooriki Bewarse
Username: Chalam
Post Number: 1274
Registered: 04-2004
Posted From: 148.87.1.171
| | Posted on Monday, July 19, 2004 - 7:31 pm: | |
Amar: sure, the camera does move a lot but who really cares about such things unless it really helps the story in some way ? QT doesnt resort to such cheap techniques, a good story teller innovates more in the 'form' not just the style. all that 'city of god' has is style - and yes lotsa static shots too.
there's nothing engrossing about the movie as a film itself, the kid killers were the only shock for me. the movie just prods on and on, a new character every 20 mins or so and then he goes on the killing spree. he tried to be a QT, a soderbergh, a Oliver stone - all rolled into one. if it were not for the strong theme itself which was both voluminous and shocking, this movie would have gone flat in no time.
RGV, as a film-maker given such explosive material would have produced a classic.
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Amar
Kurra Bewarse
Username: Amar
Post Number: 174
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 24.13.70.185
| | Posted on Monday, July 19, 2004 - 7:21 pm: | |
chalam
city of god is picturised in continous fluid motion of camera, that was really unique. for the larger part of the movie camera doesnt standstill, it always keeps moving.
i felt that was pretty innovative, good movie.
RGV just uses the gang stories and widely used camera syntaxes to make a movie, never was he avant garde film maker. these brazil, spanish guys are better than us, trying all sorts of style, fluid motion camera, boomerang storytelling etc.
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Chalam
Vooriki Bewarse
Username: Chalam
Post Number: 1185
Registered: 04-2004
Posted From: 148.87.1.171
| | Posted on Monday, July 19, 2004 - 12:37 pm: | |
finally got around to watch the movie. it's more like a docu-drama and gets tedious and repetitive after a while. used lot of QT techniques but still a long way to go, for the director. the only chilling part was the < 10 year old kids killing ppl in gay abandon. lil'ze character was weird at times. he is established as a smart but diabolic kid but then all we see later is his diabolism and hot-headed nature. wtf happened to all those smarts ? IMO, RGV is a step ahead of this director as a film-maker and this dude is notches below QT.
the dvd had another special feature which captured the real ppl from the 'city'. that was very eye-opening and chilling. boss, I hope bombay doesnt become anything like this, what a waste of promising youth !! actually, the police chief of Rio had some very deep insights into the whole affair, worth listening to his comments.
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Amar
Kurra Bewarse
Username: Amar
Post Number: 172
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 24.13.70.185
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 7:51 pm: | |
what a movie man.
brazilian pulp fiction.
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Plz_kissme
Bewarse ke Bewarse!
Username: Plz_kissme
Post Number: 2580
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 164.107.188.32
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 06, 2004 - 5:15 pm: | |
lol
noting like tat
CHIRU RULES |
Chalam
Bewarse
Username: Chalam
Post Number: 747
Registered: 04-2004
Posted From: 148.87.1.170
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 06, 2004 - 5:14 pm: | |
eti, patha kakshalemanna undayeti ?
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Plz_kissme
Bewarse ke Bewarse!
Username: Plz_kissme
Post Number: 2576
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 164.107.188.32
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 06, 2004 - 4:59 pm: | |
ohh aaa Nee nuvvena?
CHIRU RULES |
Chalam
Bewarse
Username: Chalam
Post Number: 739
Registered: 04-2004
Posted From: 148.87.1.170
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 06, 2004 - 4:53 pm: | |
naa asalu ID endi mama ? ide naa one and only ID BTDB lo. IBDB lo 'neee..' ani undedi le.
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Plz_kissme
Bewarse ke Bewarse!
Username: Plz_kissme
Post Number: 2527
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 164.107.188.32
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 06, 2004 - 2:09 pm: | |
manaki chadive alavatu ledule
kikikiki
inthaki nee asalu id enti mama
CHIRU RULES |
Chalam
Bewarse
Username: Chalam
Post Number: 722
Registered: 04-2004
Posted From: 148.87.1.170
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 06, 2004 - 2:07 pm: | |
mari aati sangathi soodaka ee kelikings deniki ?   |
Plz_kissme
Bewarse ke Bewarse!
Username: Plz_kissme
Post Number: 2524
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 164.107.188.32
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 06, 2004 - 2:06 pm: | |
Sumer qtr start ayyindi mama, 3months!!!
kaani i am doin the courses in 1month, totally fcuked!
6-7hrs of classes everyday!
CHIRU RULES |
Chalam
Bewarse
Username: Chalam
Post Number: 721
Registered: 04-2004
Posted From: 148.87.1.170
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 06, 2004 - 2:04 pm: | |
PKM thammi, semester/quarter eppudu startings ? |
Plz_kissme
Bewarse ke Bewarse!
Username: Plz_kissme
Post Number: 2521
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 164.107.188.32
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 06, 2004 - 1:56 pm: | |
chonga babai first post lo annadu kada varma copy kottadu ani, anduke adigings
aithe chonga babai ni adugu, migatha andarini enduku adigings?
CHIRU RULES |
Chalam
Bewarse
Username: Chalam
Post Number: 720
Registered: 04-2004
Posted From: 148.87.1.170
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 06, 2004 - 1:45 pm: | |
chonga babai first post lo annadu kada varma copy kottadu ani, anduke adigings.
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Hustler
Kurra Bewarse
Username: Hustler
Post Number: 125
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 138.87.66.98
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 06, 2004 - 1:43 pm: | |
i liked that character lil zie.. nasty and ruthless and man oh man.. killing people at the tender age of what 7..some pervert. |
Plz_kissme
Bewarse ke Bewarse!
Username: Plz_kissme
Post Number: 2516
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 164.107.188.32
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 06, 2004 - 1:34 pm: | |
last scene lo lil ze ni aa pillakayalu champutharu
tat was fcukin hilarious!, inka navvi vasthundi
blockbuster lo dvd doruktundi
CHIRU RULES |
Hustler
Kurra Bewarse
Username: Hustler
Post Number: 123
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 138.87.66.98
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 06, 2004 - 1:27 pm: | |
chalam bhai
I found the DVD in local video rental in our town.
naaku both movies chala different anipinchayi mama. this movie is actually a real story and where as company is not(inspired from real characters though). rgv showed the modus operandi of mafia in company where as city of god is more about kids living in rio slums and how they adapt to crime(like spt fire said) and drugs.Though the back drop of the movies is similar u will find lot of differences in both of them.
company kuda 2002 release ee kada like city of god.. so RGV copy ela kottuntaadu? |
Chalam
Bewarse
Username: Chalam
Post Number: 718
Registered: 04-2004
Posted From: 148.87.1.170
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 06, 2004 - 12:43 pm: | |
Hustler miyaan, inthaki varma ekkada copy kottadu ?
and did u get the dvd in blockbuster ?
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Hustler
Kurra Bewarse
Username: Hustler
Post Number: 122
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 138.87.66.98
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 06, 2004 - 12:35 pm: | |
Saw it over this weekend. Heavy stuff!
the story of lil dice is pretty interesting.cant believe that it was a real story. man oh man... those killings that too done by kids is gruesome. |
Chalam
Bewarse
Username: Chalam
Post Number: 579
Registered: 04-2004
Posted From: 148.87.1.170
| | Posted on Monday, June 28, 2004 - 3:17 pm: | |
inthaki chonga mama, varma ekkada copy kottado cheppaledu 'city of gods'. company lo vivek oberoi character aa ?
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Hustler
Pilla Bewarse
Username: Hustler
Post Number: 94
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 138.87.136.110
| | Posted on Monday, June 28, 2004 - 3:11 pm: | |
yeah chalam.
AP has 3 dif stories and the common point in 3 of them is that they start off with the same accident. The director introduces a fourth line just to introduce the character in the third story. The 3 stories are
- story of a young man lusting after his brother's wife.
- story of a model and her lover.
- story of a rebel turned assasin( the director gives us intro to this character thru a fourth line).
MR konthavaraku Abhishek character AP lo nunche adapt chesukunnadu mama. |
Chalam
Bewarse
Username: Chalam
Post Number: 575
Registered: 04-2004
Posted From: 148.87.1.170
| | Posted on Monday, June 28, 2004 - 2:51 pm: | |
hustler miyaan, MR only adapted the idea of boomerang technique that amoros showed. infact, he deviates majorly in the sense that aftyer showing all the three, he brings them on one line. I heard AP lo, it still continues in three diff, lines and infact itnroduces a fourth line. is that true ? I did not see AP.
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Plz_kissme
Bewarse ke Bewarse!
Username: Plz_kissme
Post Number: 2196
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 65.24.88.239
| | Posted on Monday, June 28, 2004 - 7:29 am: | |
i saw this yday...
sometimes it was funny. those small kids who kill lil ze at the end were hilarious..
nice1 anywayz!
CHIRU RULES |
Amar
Kurra Bewarse
Username: Amar
Post Number: 155
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 24.13.70.185
| | Posted on Saturday, June 26, 2004 - 11:20 pm: | |
spitfire mama
untouchables is directed by brian de palma |
Spitfire
Kurra Bewarse
Username: Spitfire
Post Number: 182
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 68.106.114.108
| | Posted on Saturday, June 26, 2004 - 5:17 pm: | |
It is an excellent movie. Poverty driving normal kids into thugs in Rio. The good/bad side of people. The ruthless nature of the trade and. the way the kids adapt to crime ( all fish to water) is excellent.
CHonga, you are mistken about the lifted tunes. Coming to the story,the intorduction of characters and the story is told is \red(linear fusion) and a alsight modification of the way it is told in Christopher Nolan's Memento and Scorcese masterpiece Untouchables.
The best part of the movie "City of God" is the compelling storytelling of the documentary and start and finish.
Singh
ShivaShankar -- R U Ready |
Hustler
Pilla Bewarse
Username: Hustler
Post Number: 85
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 138.87.66.98
| | Posted on Saturday, June 26, 2004 - 1:49 pm: | |
is it that good?
what is it about? |
Phani_pulp_f
Pilla Bewarse
Username: Phani_pulp_f
Post Number: 33
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 202.138.112.243
| | Posted on Saturday, June 26, 2004 - 5:37 am: | |
chonga babay..i've been waiting for that movie since a LOOOOONG time..
INDIA(hyd lo) lo nenu try chesaanu dhorakaledhe...
andhulo print baagundhi antunnavu..
ekkada konnavo chepthe..nenu parugo parugu..
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Xxx
Kurra Bewarse
Username: Xxx
Post Number: 243
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 66.159.178.9
| | Posted on Saturday, June 26, 2004 - 2:52 am: | |
after reading the story it should be company
An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind". Gandhi ,
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Xxx
Kurra Bewarse
Username: Xxx
Post Number: 242
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 66.159.178.9
| | Posted on Saturday, June 26, 2004 - 2:51 am: | |
http://www.blockbuster.com/bb/movie/details/0,7286 ,VID-V+++265461,00.html?
and I dont know which varma movie is copied from the above ,
comming to Yuva,bYuva just inspired babai, story is completly different, He took the Frame from Ammerros parroes , and that is the problem , Mani should have sticked to his own imagination rather than borrowing an Idea from the movie and trying to develope a story to suit to,
An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind". Gandhi ,
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Chonga
Kurra Bewarse
Username: Chonga
Post Number: 158
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 220.226.58.139
| | Posted on Saturday, June 26, 2004 - 1:01 am: | |
Hustler babai,
city of God ee anukuntaa....
chalam babai,
US lo rental ki try cheste dorakaledu.....India lo oka shop lo aa DVD dorikindi.....asalu aa shop vaadiki aa cinema peru palakadam kooda teliyaledu....ventane konesaanu....250 Rs...original print. yaamaarchaanu.
Sankarabharanam, SagaraSangamam, GudumbaShankar |
Hustler
Pilla Bewarse
Username: Hustler
Post Number: 83
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 12.221.228.62
| | Posted on Friday, June 25, 2004 - 5:44 pm: | |
is it city of gods.. or city of god?
yUva heavily inspired from a spanish film "Ammerros parroes" and very well adapted to indian conditions.
aaa accident scene ditto ki ditto copy and every character's story starts from there each time aa spanish lo cinem lo.. ade total ga copy kottsaadu MR. |
Chalam
Kurra Bewarse
Username: Chalam
Post Number: 489
Registered: 04-2004
Posted From: 148.87.1.171
| | Posted on Friday, June 25, 2004 - 7:36 am: | |
eti mana brazilian movie naa ? varma dentlo copy kottaduy babai ? nenu soolledu kaani mana list lo undi eppatnuncho ? neeku ekkada dorikindi dvd ?
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Chonga
Kurra Bewarse
Username: Chonga
Post Number: 155
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 61.11.88.12
| | Posted on Friday, June 25, 2004 - 4:10 am: | |
choosaaraa ? Impressing gaa vundi kada ? 2002 release. mana varma baane copy kottaadu....Maniratnam Yuva main music kooda indulo nundi inspire ayinattunnaadu rehman.....
Sankarabharanam, SagaraSangamam, GudumbaShankar |
