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Naatu
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tk mama..this extract is from www.swordoftruth.com if 'am not wrong..rediff.com also published blunders made by nehru..anyway pretty informative..keep posting
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edemaina Gandhi garu feroz gandhi ni dathhatha theesukoni vamsanni politics lo nilapettaru
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abadaam emi untundi jammu mama. most of the things frm this reading is true i guess.
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Nijamoo abaddhamoo thelavadhu kaani it made a good reading!!
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antha sadive opika ledu
Jagame Maaya
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idi ot maava yeppudoo pettadu ...
Okka post cheesthee Vandha postlu cheesinattee BewarseDada
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Opinion demundi mama antha clear gane undi kada .

I agree.
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sadivi mee opinion seppandeha
Simhamalle nadichostha thodane kotti Manmadhunne dadipistha meesam thippi
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At the very beginning of his book, "The Nehru Dynasty", astrologer
K. N.Rao mentions the names of Jawahar Lal's father and grandfather.
JawaharLal's father was believed to be Moti Lal and Moti Lal's father was one
Gangadhar Nehru.

And we all know that Jawahar Lal's only daughter was Indira Priyadarshini
Nehru; Kamala Nehru was her mother, who died in Switzerland of
tuberculosis. She was totally against Indira's proposed marriage with
Feroze. Why? No one tells us that Now, who is this Feroze? We are told by
many that he was the son of the family grocer. The grocer supplied wines,
etc. to Anand Bhavan, previously known as Ishrat Manzil, which once belonged
to a Muslim lawyer named Mobarak Ali. Moti Lal was earlier an employee of Mobarak Ali.
What was the family grocer's name?


One frequently hears that Rajiv Gandhi's grandfather! was Pandit Nehru. But
then we all know that everyone has two grandfathers, the paternal and the
maternal grandfathers. In fact, the paternal grandfather is deemed to be
the more important grandfather in most societies. Why is it then no where
we find Rajiv Gandhi's paternal grandfather's name? It appears that the
reason is simply this. Rajiv Gandhi's paternal grandfather was a Muslim
gentleman from the Junagadh area of Gujarat.

This Muslim grocer by the name of Nawab Khan, had married a Parsi woman
after converting her to Islam. This is the source where from the myth of
Rajiv being a Parsi was derived. Rajiv's father Feroze was Feroze Khan
before he married Indira, against Kamala Nehru's wishes. Feroze' mother's
family name was Ghandy, often associated with Parsis and this was changed
to Gandhi, some time before his wedding with Indira, by an affidavit.

The fact of the matter is that (and this fact can be found in many
writings) Indira was very lonely. Chased out of the Shantiniketan
University by Guru Dev Rabindranath himself for misdemeanor, the lonely
girl was all by herself, while father Jawahar was busy with politics,
pretty women and illicit sex; the mother was in hospital. Feroze Khan, the
grocer's son was then in England and he was quite sympathetic to Indira and
soon enough she changed her religion, became a Muslim woman and married
Feroze Khan in a London mosque. Nehru was not happy; Kamala was dead
already or dying. The news of this marriage eventually reached Mohandas
Karamchand Gandhi. Gandhi urgently called Nehru and practically ordered him
to ask the young man to change his name from Khan to Gandhi. It had nothing
to do with change of religion, from Islam to Hinduism for instance. It was
just a case of a change of name by an affidavit . And so Feroze Khan
became Feroze Gandhi. The surprising thing is that the apostle of truth, the old man
soon to be declared India's Mahatma and the 'Father of the Nation' didn't mention this
game of his in the famous book, 'My Experiments with Truth'. Why? When they
returned to India, a mock 'Vedic marriage' was instituted for public
consumption. On this subject, writes M.O. Mathai (a longtime private
secretary of Nehru) in his renowned (but now suppressed by the GOI)
'Reminiscences of the Nehru Age' on page 94, second paragraph:
"For some inexplicable reason, Nehru allowed the marriage to be performed according to
Vedic rites in 1942. An inter-religious and inter-caste marriage under
Vedic rites at that time was not valid in law. To be legal, it had to be a
civil marriage. It's a known fact that after Rajiv's birth Indira and

Feroze lived separately, but they were not divorced. Feroze used to harass
Nehru frequently for money and also in terfere in Nehru's political
activities. Nehru got fed up and left instructions not to allow him into
the Prime Minister's residence Trimurthi Bhavan. Mathai writes that the death
of Feroze came as a relief to Nehru and Indira. The death of Feroze in 1960
before he could consolidate his own political forces, is itself a mystery.
Feroze had even planned to remarry. Those who try to keep tabs on our leaders
in spite of all the suppressions and deliberate misinformation, are aware of the fact
that the second son of Indira (or Mrs. Feroze Khan) known as Sanjay Gandhi was not the son of
Feroze. He was the son of another Moslem gentleman, Mohammad Yunus. Here,
in passing, we might mention that the second son was originally named
Sanjiv. It rhymed with Rajiv, the elder brother's name. It was changed to
Sanjay when he was arrested by the British police in England and his
passport impounded, for having stolen a car. Krishna Menon was then
India's High Commis sioner in London. He offered to issue another passport to the
felon who changed his name to Sanjay. Incidentally, Sanjay's marriage with
the Sikh girl Menaka (now they call her Maneka for Indira Gandhi found the
name of Lord Indra's court dancer rather offensive!) took place quite
surprisingly in Mohammad Yunus' house in New Delhi. And the marriage with
Menaka who was a model (She had modeled for Bombay Dyeing wearing just a
towel) was not so ordinary either. Sanjay was notorious in getting unwed
young women pregnant. Menaka too was rendered pregnant by Sanjay. It was
then that her father, Colonel Anand, threatened Sanjay with dire
consequences if he did not marry her daughter. And that did the trick.
Sanjay married Menaka.

It was widely repor ted in Delhi at the time that Mohammad Yunus was
unhappy at the marriage of Sanjay with Menaka; apparently he had wanted to
get him married with a Muslim girl of his choice. It was Mohammad Yunus
who cried th e most when Sanjay died in the plane accident. In Yunus' book,
'Persons, Passions & Politics' one discovers that baby Sanjay had been
circumcised following Islamic custom, although the reason stated was
phimosis. It was always believed that Sanjay used to blackmail Indira
Gandhi and due to this she used to turn a blind eye when Sanjay Gandhi
started to run the country as though it were his personal fiefdom. Was he
black mailing her with the secret of who his real father was? When the news
of Sanjay's death reached Indira Gandhi, the first thing she wanted to know
was about the bunch of keys which Sanjay had with him.

Nehru was no less a player in producing baxstards. At least one case is very
graphically described by M. O. Mathai in his "Reminiscences of the Nehru
Age", page 206. Mathai writes: "In the autumn of 1948 (India became free in
1947 and a great deal of work needed to be done) a young woman from Benares
arrived in New Delhi as a sanyasin na med Shraddha Mata (an assumed and
not a real name). She was a Sanskrit scholar well versed in the ancient Indian
scriptures and mythology. People, including MPs, thronged to her to hear
her discourses. One day S. D. Upadhyaya, Nehru's old employee, brought a letter
in Hindi from Shraddha Mata. Nehru gave her an interview in the PM's house.

As she departed, I noticed (Mathai is speaking here) that she was young,
shapely and beautiful. Meetings with her became rather frequent, mostly
after Nehru finished his work at night. During one of
Nehru's visits to Lucknow, Shraddha Mata turned up there, and Upadhyaya brought a letter
from her as usual. Nehru sent her the reply; and she visited Nehru at
midnight...Suddenly Shraddha Mata disappeared.
In November 1949 a convent in Bangalore sent a decent looking person to
Delhi with a bundle of letters. He said that a young woman from northern
India arrived at the convent a few months ago and gave birth to a baby boy.
She refused to divulge her name or give any particulars about herself. She
left the convent as soon as she was well enough to move out but left the
child behind. She however forgot to take with her a small cloth bundle in
which, among other things, several letters in Hindi were found. The Mother
Superior, who was a foreigner, had the letters examined and was told they
were from the Prime Minister. The person who brought the letters
surrendered them... "I (Mathai) made discreet inquiries repeatedly about
the boy but failed to get a clue about his whereabouts. Convents in such
matters are extremely tightlipped and secretive. Had I succeeded in
locating the boy, I would have adopted him. He must have grown up as a
Catholic Christian blissfully ignorant of who his father was."
Coming back to Rajiv Gandhi, we all know now that he changed his so called
Parsi religion to become a Catholic to marry Sania Maino of Turin, Italy.

Rajiv became Roberto. His daughter's name is Bianca and son's name is Raul.
Quite cleverly the same names are presented to the people of India as
Priyanka and Rahul. What is amazing is the extent of our people's ignorance
in such matters. The press conference that Rajiv Gandhi gave in London
after taking over as prime minister of India was very informative. In this
press conference, Rajiv boasted that he was NOT a Hindu but a Parsi. Mind
you, speaking of the Parsi religion, he had no Parsi ancestor at all. His
grandmother (father's mother) had turned Muslim after having abandoned the
Parsi religion to marry Nawab Khan. It is the western press that waged a
blitz of misinformation on behalf of Rajiv. From the New York Times to the
Los Angeles Times and the Washington Post, the big guns raised Rajiv to
heaven. The children's encyclopedias recorded that Rajiv was a qualified Mechanical
Engineer from the revered University of Cambridge. No doubt US kids are
among the most misi nformed in the world today! The reality is that in all
three years of his tenure at that University Rajiv had not passed a single
examination. He had therefore to leave Cambridge without a certificate.
Sonia too had the same benevolent treatment. She was stated to be student
in Cambridge. Such a description is calculated to mis! lead Indians. She was a
student in Cambridge all right but not of the University of Cambridge but
of one of those fly by night language schools where foreign students come
to learn English. Sonia was working as an 'au pair' girl in Cambridge and
trying to learn English at the same time. And surprise of surprises, Rajiv
was even cremated as per vedic rites in full view of India's public.
This is the Nehru dynasty that India worships and now an Italian leads a
prestigious national party because of just one qualification - being
married into the Nehru family. Maneka Gandhi itself is being accepted by the
non-Congress parties not be cause she was a former model or an animal
lover, but for her links to the Nehru family. Saying that an Italian should not
lead India will amount to narrow mindedness, but if Sania Maino
(Sonia) had served India like say Mother Teresa or Annie Besant, i.e. in
anyway on her own rights, then all Indians should be proud of her just as
how proud we are of Mother Teresa.

Simhamalle nadichostha thodane kotti Manmadhunne dadipistha meesam thippi